Kevin Costner Interview, Mr Brooks

Posted by: Sheila Roberts

MoviesOnline sat down with Academy Award winning actor Kevin Costner at the Los Angeles press day to talk about his new film "Mr. Brooks,” a gripping suspense thriller about an otherwise exceptional man divided in two by his unbearable need to kill. Costner stars as the charming, widely admired Mr. Brooks, whose shocking private life is about to unravel. A successful businessman, a generous philanthropist, a loving husband and father, and a true pillar of the community, Mr. Brooks nonetheless harbors a sinister secret—he’s an insatiable serial killer, so lethally clever that no one has ever suspected him—until now. Demi Moore, Dane Cook, William Hurt, Marg Helgenberger, Ruben Santiago-Hudson, and Danielle Panabaker also star.

There were many reasons that director/screenwriter Bruce Evans ("Stand By Me”) and his long-time writing partner Raynold Gideon imagined Kevin Costner as Mr. Brooks from the start. First and foremost was the chance to subvert his charm, looks and reputation, as an unassailable screen hero in a way they knew would ratchet up the tension in their thriller. But it was also an opportunity to showcase, in an unexpected way, the acting skills that Costner has demonstrated in such diverse roles as the Civil War Lieutenant who befriends a Sioux tribe in "Dances With Wolves”; the hardened kidnapper who connects with his young captor in Clint Eastwood’s "A Perfect World”; the iconic title hero of Lawrence Kasdan’s "Wyatt Earp”; the once-great baseball star who falls for an embittered woman in Mike Binder’s "The Upside of Anger” and most recently, the aging Coast Guard rescue swimmer facing his legacy in Andrew Davis’ "The Guardian.”

"I’ve always thought of Kevin as someone very capable of surprising audiences,” says Evans, "and I don’t think he’s gotten enough credit yet for what a skilled actor he is. He doesn’t hide behind tics or mannerisms or large brush-strokes. He is much more subtle than that – which is where his power to really take a role like this and run with it comes in.” Co-writer and producer Gideon adds: "Mr. Brooks is a very flawed human being and his crimes are shocking, but he also knows what he is doing is wrong, and the way Kevin brings that internal struggle to the fore is what makes him so fascinating.”

Costner did not want to whitewash the stark truth of who Mr. Brooks is -- a man who fights his inner demons yet returns again and again to the compulsion to kill. Nor could he forget the havoc and heartbreak the character wreaks with his brilliantly planned but gruesomely cruel murders of total strangers. States Costner: "Make no mistake, the places Mr. Brooks goes are indefensible and despicable, but what makes him so interesting is that he has this other pressure on him that you don’t usually get to see in a killer – there’s a conscience beating at him.”

In producer Jim Wilson’s eyes it’s precisely the very human qualities which Kevin Costner brings to this monster of a man that makes the character one of the of most chilling serial killers yet seen on screen – one who digs deep into our worst fears about what the most charming and alluring people we know around us might be hiding.

"Here you have this dashing, charismatic man in Kevin Costner, but you start to peel away his layers and realize that he has a terrible, unstoppable addiction to killing,” sums up Wilson. "In Kevin’s performance, with every single scene there’s another layer of Mr. Brooks that we see. I think it’s as complicated and multi-layered a character as he has ever played. "

Kevin Costner is a fascinating actor and we really appreciated his time. Here’s what had to tell us about his new film:

Q: What made you want to take on this kind of dark role we haven't really seen you in before?

KEVIN COSTNER: The decision was pretty simple. The movie, I thought, was the star. I thought the writing was the star of the movie, and I thought that while I didn't see myself like that person, I thought I could do this, you know? And so when I make up my mind, first and foremost, is it a movie...Because even though you have to professionally cover movies, I'm sure that deep down you do love movies, and probably love movies when they surprise you. And I think that this movie kind of, on paper, I thought it had all those moments. If we embraced them and went for them, I understood that it would be seen as a departure. [Laughs] I understood all the things that would come with it, but I still felt like, if I'm going to make a life of making movies, then I should try to make different kinds of movies. And this seemed to fit in a positive way.

Q: Did you consider directing this?

KEVIN COSTNER: I thought about that, but when I realized what the pedigree of the project was, that the writers who wrote it wanted to direct it, then we had a discussion about that. I could have done that, but in this instance, this was important for him to direct. And I've worked with a lot of first-time directors, writer/directors, and I thought, "I'll give this a chance."

Q: Did you decide right away that you wanted to produce it as well?

KEVIN COSTNER: I knew without a doubt that I would have to do that. I knew that I would also have to have final cut on it. If you like the movie, the odd things about it I knew would be things that would be cut first. If you don't like blood, blood would be gone. If you don't like this, that would be gone. Because they ask audiences, ‘What do you like?’ ‘I don't like this.’ But I thought that this piece was dark. It's insidious, what it is. Even though we ashamedly find ourselves laughing at some moments, the oddity of it, I felt that it needed to be true to itself, and I didn't want to see it...If no one else wanted to make this movie and I wanted to make it, why would I let anybody try to flatten it out and make it more generic? So while I know maybe some longtime people who've enjoyed my movies might be offended by this, might think that it's too harsh, I get that, and I accept that. But I don't want to cater to my audience, I just want to feed it, you know? Take or not take it. It's an honest effort.

Q: Can you talk about working with Dane? And were you familiar with his stand-up?

KEVIN COSTNER: I wasn't familiar with his stand-up. And I'm actually glad, because I don't completely understand his stand-up all the time. But I understand him, and I understand his desire to not be pigeonholed, be conformed. And he read for me. He read for this movie. He did all the things that someone who has a bigger idea about their career does. They want something that they see themselves being a part of something unique, and he did, and that's why he got the part. And he was sensational in it.

Q: Do you see a little of Mr. Brooks in yourself?

KEVIN COSTNER: Well, the things that we all see in ourselves in Mr. Brooks are that we would all go defend our daughter. Mad as hell, but we would go kill for them. And so there are things that...Mr. Brooks isn't looking for forgiveness. ‘Oh, don't you see that I'm really a nice guy?’ No, he's not. He has a disease. When that disease isn't working, he is a nice guy. But the families that he's dismantled, both the ones that have died and the boat wake that comes after...That kind of thing that families are destroyed forever--mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters...We don't really deal with that. We have to know in our hearts that that's what is...That's why we can't ever forgive him.
 
But what Mr. Brooks is successful at, I think, is that it creates a certain kind of empathy. And empathy always comes in our life when we have a level of understanding. You may not like the serial killer, can never forgive him. He destroyed your girlfriend's life forever, blah blah blah, ‘I hate him, I wish he never was born.’ You might know him and know that he was assaulted and abused since he was 3 years old. And you can't forgive him either, and you can't say anything, but in your heart, you go, ‘That poor fucker never had a chance.’ You have empathy because you have a level of understanding of him. And so in movies, we can create a level of understanding if we choose to invest in a character. And that's what made Mr. Brooks stand out to me as a serial killer movie. Because I don't like serial killer movies. I don't like scary movies. I get scared. I'm uncomfortable. I don't like roller coasters or shit like that. I don't like being scared. It's not an adrenaline rush for me. So Mr. Brooks really had to pass a lot of things for me to want to even be a part of it. And it did.

Q: Were you scared when you watched it?

KEVIN COSTNER: No.

Q: Or when you read it?

KEVIN COSTNER: [jokes] Come on, man.

Q: Were you taken back...?

KEVIN COSTNER: On the first time I read it? No. I was in the safety of my own little couch. [Laughs] I knew no one was going to get me. Look, and I like writers. And I like protecting writing. And I like seeing writing find its way to the screen. And so if I was going to be scared at all about Mr. Brooks, it would have been scared of somebody else had final cut.

Q: Were you concerned that Marshall might overwhelm this movie?

KEVIN COSTNER: Well, I knew it was a really flashy role. And I very often take movies that have scene-stealing roles all around me, and I relish that. I think that's important for movies. I don't get scared by that stuff. I encourage the actors to be really good around me. I want that to happen. And I want them to do it inside the lines of the movie. And so when I see a great role, I want to go for a great actor. A great actor recognizes a great role. It just raises the whole level of the movie. [pauses]

Q: Does it surprise you to hear that...

KEVIN COSTNER: [referring to last question] I want to go to that for a second. It is a pleasing role. And you know, sometime the temptation is, in American movies now, conventional wisdom is they'll ask you, ‘What scene did you hate the most?’ And you'll tell them, ‘What scene did you like the most?’ In modern day filmmaking, that scene you hated the most goes flying out of the movie. But that doesn't mean it should have. It gives the movie a balance. And they might ask you about characters, and you say, ‘Well, I really like Marshall the most.’ Then an executive goes, ‘Let's write some more scenes for Marshall.’ I think Marshall was in there just perfectly. Just perfectly.

Q: How was it playing those scenes opposite William Hurt?

KEVIN COSTNER: It was fun. I mean, I've known William because of The Big Chill, and we both are rehearsal-oriented actors, and writer-driven actors. So it fit into our game really nicely.

Q: Was Marshall based on somebody?

KEVIN COSTNER: Yes. Marshall was based on a...I found Marshall when I was 12 years old in a book of children's dreams. And he would play basically a Black Knight, an evil person. But I liked him so much in the book because he was kind of cool. And I liked him so much, actually, I was afraid he was going to die in the book, so I never finished it. And my father used to discipline me with the idea that if I wasn't good, that the Black Knight would come and get me. That it would come and get me, that it actually hid in my closet. And like any young man, eventually you challenge your dad's theory and you open that closet. And there was my imaginary friend, and he was not scary at all to me. And so he's been with me. Sort of my alter-ego. And that began when I was 12 years old.

Q: Bruce [Evans] had only directed one film prior to Mr. Brooks. What did he do to convince you that visually he could accomplish this?

KEVIN COSTNER: Well, I didn't look at his other movie. [Laughs] I didn't want to. Because once I committed to him as a director, I wanted to try to support him, and I didn't want to get panicked. I mean, I had heard different things. I didn't want to jade that. Once I gave him my word that he would get a chance to direct it, I wanted to back that up. But I wanted also to protect the movie by keeping final cut.

Q: What is something that you look for in a script? What jumps out at you?

KEVIN COSTNER: Just fresh air. Just like something that seems highly original. I would never do this movie if it was pitched to me. But I would have never done Field of Dreams if it was pitched to me. It takes a writer that really has his muse working on his shoulder, you know? And you just go, ‘Wow.’ It was just an incredible window that they found into this subject. I thought Thirteen Days, for instance...It was great. The window into that story was through Kenny O'Donnell. Not Jack's point of view or Bobby's point of view, you know? It's hard, writing. That's why it's hard to write. It's not easy. It's an artform.

Q: What is your inspiration for writing? Does it just come to you?

KEVIN COSTNER: It just comes to me. I don't consider myself a great writer, but I feel like I recognize a great idea, and I feel like I protect great writing. I think that's my talent.

Q: Do you think great writing isn't protected a lot in Hollywood?

KEVIN COSTNER: I don't think that it is, no. Because the minute you're willing to ask an audience what they think about a movie, I think that no one cares about the writing. They care what they think. And I think that's foolish. But unlike conventional wisdom, I don't go out and make a movie when a script is 60% just because I got the actor now and the director, and I think the job's done. I'm anal. I don't even go out to actors till my script is 100% done because I don't want anybody changing it. Annette Bening and Robert Duvall didn't change a line on Open Range. Why? Because I was sure that it worked. We didn't change any lines, William Hurt and Dane Cook and I, in our half of the movie.
 
Not a line. Because I was positive it worked, you know? Yeah, there's blood. There's a lot of blood. But that's what this movie is about. But there's a lot of tenderness in it, too. So what is everybody so afraid of? Not being #1 at the box office? Well, we ain't going to be. We're not even going to come close. But we can be a movie that's so true to itself that you might want to take a friend back to it. Or you might not ever want to see it again because of what it is. I'm not saying it's an easy thing. But somebody else, it might speak so loudly to. ‘I want you to see this movie.’ And I'm proud that those moments are in there that would drive you back to it. I think it has classicness.

Q: Can you say anything about the western you're working on now, and if you're getting the same editor from Open Range?

KEVIN COSTNER: I'll probably use the same guy. Yeah, it's just a good cowboy movie about friendship and there's a code. It's done, it's written, it's 100% done. People aren't dying to make them. I'll just have to figure out how to make it. I have to mortgage something else. [Laughs]
Q: Do you think there is a "killer gene" or a predisposition to serial killing that is passed on from parent to child?

KEVIN COSTNER: I don't really know. I think I don't really know. You hear of alcoholism being passed on in genes and stuff like that. I think we're the generation that's just learning about what gets passed on. I mean, our eyes are opening every day as to what...We go, ‘Oh my God’...I mean, just about the time we think a protein diet is the right one, somebody goes, ‘So wrong!
 
So wrong!’ I mean, every diet, everything's got something. Somebody goes, ‘Wrong!’ You know, four years later. What's clear is people live under enormous pressure. There's too many of us in the city. There's too many of us...Look, it's weird out there. It's weird out there. I mean, we're all like some number, you know? ‘One out of somebody’ gets assaulted, and women have it worse. It's like, ‘What the fuck?’ I mean, we're like a percentage of something going bad somewhere. It's terrible.

Q: Are you surprised that Brian De Palma is going back to do an
Untouchables prequel? And do you have any thoughts on Nicolas Cage playing Al Capone, and maybe who should be Malone?

KEVIN COSTNER: No, I don't think about it at all. I don't think about it at all. [Laughs] I mean, I think about it now because you brought it up -- 7 or 8 seconds.

Q: It was such a seminal film for you.

KEVIN COSTNER: No, it was a very important film to me, and it was very important for Brian. [jokingly] And I'm not surprised that they've circled back to it to squeeze some more out of that film.

Q: Thanks, and congratulations.

KEVIN COSTNER: Thanks.
 
Mr. Brooks opens in theaters June 1st. Check out the trailer for the film below. You won't be disappointed. This looks to be a great new role for Kevin to impress us with. 
  
 

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