Chris Cooper Interview, BREACH

Posted by: Sheila Roberts

MoviesOnline recently caught up with Academy Award winning actor Chris Cooper to discuss his latest film at the Los Angeles Press Day for "Breach,” a dramatic thriller inspired by true events and set inside the halls of the FBI. The film is directed by Billy Ray, who previously explored themes of deception and betrayal in the electrifying "Shattered Glass.” The screenplay for "Breach” is co-written by Ray, Adam Mazer ("Shelter from the Storm”), and William Rotko ("Freeze”). Cooper stars as renowned FBI operative Robert Hanssen, one of the most notorious spies in the history of our country, who was found guilty of treason against America in 2001. Over a period of more than two decades, Hanssen systematically and deliberately sold his country’s key intelligence to the former Soviet Union. Ryan Phillippe joins Cooper, starring as Eric O’Neill, the young agent-in-training handpicked by the Bureau to help draw the traitor out of his deep cover. Engaged in a lethal game of spy-versus-spy, O’Neill finds himself fighting to bring down Hanssen before the treacherous double agent can destroy him, his family and the nation they are both sworn to serve.

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"From the beginning, Billy Ray was taken with Chris Cooper,” recalls producer Scott Kroopf. "He felt that Chris was the epitome of Robert Hanssen, that he could play the darkness of the character, but also find the humanity. The word ‘chameleon’ describes Chris to a T. This character is all about shades and layers and colors and contradictions.” Cooper, who over the years has chosen work from his role of Colonel Frank Fitts in "American Beauty” to the conflicted jockey Tom Smith in "Seabiscuit,” cites the smartness of the material and the complexity of the character as informing his decision to play Hanssen. "Good material is hard to find,” offers the actor. "This jumped out at me – a good script and an unusual character told very well.”

"Hanssen is probably the most contradictory character I’ve ever played,” continues Cooper. "There is a whole opposite world he’s living in, and it’s often a complete contradiction.” Of playing a traitor, he relates, "I really had to work on having something else to think about while playing a scene. When audiences see the film, I think that concept will become self-explanatory.” "The character of Hanssen is alternately very punishing, then seducing,” explains Ray. "His intelligence becomes clear right off the bat, but so does his oddness, his quirkiness. When he looks at you, it’s like being looked at by an X-ray machine. He has the ability to shake your confidence in yourself. There aren’t a lot of actors who can pull that off without twisting themselves into a pretzel, but Chris just stands there and you feel it. He was born to play Hanssen.”

Special consultant Eric O’Neill was equally struck by Cooper’s performance. "Chris is channeling the guy so well that it’s almost nerve-wracking to sit and watch,” the former FBI man remarks. "He’s intent on making sure he really understands Hanssen – not only the way he speaks with a Chicago accent, but the way he moves, how he would get into your personal space, and all the nuances that made up the man.” For Ryan Phillippe, tapped by the filmmakers to play the role of Eric O’Neill, the opportunity to work opposite Cooper was a huge bonus. Comments Phillippe, "Chris Cooper is, in my estimation, one of the best actors working today. The idea of getting to work opposite him doing this material and having the ability to learn from him just blew me away.”

One of the most respected character actors of our time, Chris Cooper was recognized in 2003 with an Academy Award and a Golden Globe for best supporting actor for his portrayal of John Laroche in Columbia Pictures’ "Adaptation,” written by Charlie Kaufman and directed by Spike Jonze. The film, loosely based on Susan Orlean’s book "The Orchid Thief,” follows a sexually frustrated screenwriter’s attempt to adapt Orlean’s anecdotal book for the screen. Cooper was also recognized for his performance in this film by numerous critics associations, including the Broadcast Film Critics, the Los Angeles Film Critics Association and the Toronto Film Critics Association. In 2003, Cooper starred opposite Tobey Maguire and Jeff Bridges in Universal Pictures’ "Seabiscuit,” directed by Gary Ross based on the best-selling book. Cooper was nominated for a Screen Actors Guild award for his portrayal of Seabiscuit’s trainer, Tom Smith. In the same year, Cooper was nominated for an Emmy Award for his supporting performance in the HBO film "My House in Umbria,” starring Maggie Smith. In 2004, Cooper was seen in Newmarket Film’s "Silver City,” a political drama and murder mystery written and directed by John Sayles. Chris Cooper is without a doubt a very talented actor and we really appreciated his time. Here’s what he had to tell us about how he approached the character of Robert Hanssen, what it was like working with Ryan Phillippe, and how his wife taught him the rosary:e HH

MoviesOnline : What was the first thing you did when you got this role and how much research did you do?

CHRIS: As a rule it usually takes 3 or 4 readings for me to be interested in a script, and if I’m interested I’ll read it 3 or 4 times before I make a strong decision. This was unusual, it took one reading. Fortunately the people I work with at the Paradigm agency – the script came to me a little bit earlier than it usually did with the acting community. So we talked with Billy Ray, the director, and asked if he was interested in my coming aboard, and I believe Billy then approached Universal and asked them if this sounded like an okay thing with them. And they backed him and supported me, and the great thing was that 4 to 6 weeks later, once it got around that we had a good script, there were some very big names knocking at Universal’s doors to see if they might be able to knock me out of that position, but Billy and Universal stood by me.
 
I feel very fortunate. The first step certainly was to find if there was any research material and there turned out to be a lot. I looked around the house; I needed to refresh my memory because I knew this was coming up, and I found at least five of the books I had used and they are pretty in-depth studies about Hanssen from his childhood all the way to his capture. They were very helpful and of course we had the true Eric O'Neill who made himself available about a week before we started shooting to both and Ryan and I and we would spend anywhere from 10 to 12 hours a day peppering him with all sorts of questions, any bits of information about Robert Hanssen and their relationship for that period he was shadowing Hanssen. So there was a lot to draw from.

MoviesOnline : Did you feel intimidated to play a real person versus a fictional character?

CHRIS: The intimidation was that even though there were some pretty embarrassing and treacherous acts committed, I still felt responsible and respectful of primarily Hanssen’s family. No doubt this is a terrible embarrassment for the country and his wife, Bonnie, and his children. I think the script handled some of those aspects very tastefully. But intimated? No.

MoviesOnline : Was there ever a question of you visiting Hanssen in prison?

CHRIS: That would be impossible. He’s in a super-max prison, and I believe to this day he’s caused so much trouble with the amount of information he gave the Soviets over a 15-year period that from time to time, he may well still be interrogated on occasion.

MoviesOnline : Do you think there’s a possibility that he may see this film?

CHRIS: I don’t know. I saw a documentary on the prison where I believe he is, and I don’t know if they are granted reading material or televisions. I don’t believe they are but who knows. He may make some friends with the guards there and may get to view it someday.

MoviesOnline : Was the Catherine Zeta Jones stuff true?

CHRIS Yes. (laughing)

MoviesOnline : What about the religious aspect – was that only part of whom he was, and second, after making the film as well as all the research that you did, do you have any theories about why he did it?

CHRIS: When he was captured, they certainly did a pretty thorough psychological evaluation of him and if memory serves me, I think we played on probably four possibilities touching on why he did this and I remember some of the psychiatrist quotes suggesting that the roots of this may well have begun concerning the relationship with his father. It started at an early age; this book that he read, he claims at 14, but was actually at age 24. Another motivating factor that I tried to justify and I just used as a possibility, I believed him to be truly a very committed, dedicated and religious person.
 
And in that study, they suggested that he had very strong psychological demons that he was dealing with. He was terrified of failure, of not looking good in the eyes of his wife and his children. He expected to rise higher than he did in the FBI. I think he—he did rise but only to a certain level, and because of his intelligence and his working knowledge of early computers of that time, he was placed in the position where he ended up not being one of the ‘guy guy’ FBI, but sitting in front of a monitor and reading reports, and I think that may have been real discouraging to him and probably very irritating and it probably angered him quite a bit.

MoviesOnline : Did you discuss with Billy the portrayal of the religious aspect of your character and why Hanssen was the way he was?

CHRIS: Billy and I touched on that, but it was more my responsibility how far I went. I'm not Catholic, my wife is, and Patricia Clarkson, another actor friend, because we're going to be working with her, gave the house a call and Marianne picked up the phone, and it was a Saturday night, and Patty said, "What are you guys doing tonight?" Marianne said, "I'm teaching Chris the rosary." And I had no idea how lengthy a rosary could be and how involved it was. The religious aspect was all my responsibility how serious and what religious fervor he held for Opus Dei and the Catholic religion.

MoviesOnline : Can you talk about working with Ryan Phillippe?

CHRIS: I came to Los Angeles and we were working with six actors throughout the day, and we found a little sound stage with a garage door, because we were working inside and outside on some scenes, and the six talents that they chose, you all would recognize them, you all would know who they were, but it just came out that Ryan was the better performance of all of them and that was Billy's choice. The working relationship was just terrific in that we had some very strong, serious scenes every day to do.
 
So what I appreciated in Ryan, I think the day of our introduction was probably the nicest I was to Ryan, and I preferred to keep it that way. And that's the same method I used to work with Jake Gyllenhaal in October Sky. It didn't call for a chummy atmosphere on the set and that was fine with Ryan and necessary for me. I think Ryan and I work in similar ways and in many respects, at the moment of performance we're intuitive. There was a lot of pacing by both Ryan and me between scenes. That was a strong memory of mine. He'd be at one corner and I'd be at the other corner. But the atmosphere was appropriate, and it wasn't the most joyous or chummy, but it was what we needed to do the work.

MoviesOnline : How valuable was it to you shooting at some of the real locations, especially the capture/arrest location? Did that help your performance?

CHRIS: Yeah, in a subtle way, but it was an extra big layer. You're in this neighborhood and you're retracing the steps of this guy. If you saw the film where the car is parked and I'm about to get in the car and drive off, that house behind the car, I can't remember her name, but she was such a cute lady about 70 or so, and she had t-shirts printed up – ‘Hanssen was captured here.’ She was very accommodating to the cast and crew.

Q: Did you get one?

CHRIS: I didn't, but it really gave you a sense of re-doing, of re-walking history.

MoviesOnline : Were there any specific antidotes that Eric O’Neill gave you about Robert Hanssen while making the movie that helped your performance?

CHRIS: He was saying, and we did incorporate it into the film, and some people had different interpretations of it. But the scene where I'm walking and talking with O'Neill down the hall and I sort of drive him into furniture or the wall or whatever, and Eric never knew, was this intentional, is this another intimidating tactic, and I just didn't go that way. I went with – when this guy is involved, his gyro just gets off, his physical sense just goes an odd way. Eric would tell us of all the mind games Hanssen would play and Hanssen never kept that proper social distance. He'd always come around the table to where Eric was working and just hang behind him and on occasion touch him. It was very creepy for Eric. And those instances, those close calls when it was so close that Hanssen might have discovered that Eric was a set up to shadow Hanssen.

Q: Thank you.

CHRIS: Thank you, guys.

"Breach” opens in theaters on February 16th.

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