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December 21st, 2014

LunarTruth.com Apollo 18’s Secret Footage Site

Just what secrets does the site Lunartruth.com hold? For those not aware this site is the home of almost 100 hours of ‘real footage’ which the Apollo 18 movie was based on. The movie is pitched as being an edited down version of footage that was leaked onto LunarTruth.com.

Clearly most people wont buy into that story right? Well it would seem that although the film had a less then impressive $2million debut at the box office people are hitting the internet in droves to try and see what secrets and or footage are on LunarTruth.com.

For the last hour I have been trying to load the page with absolutely no success. Curiosity always gets the better of me and as much as I realize its all a big hoax I am incredibly curious as to what great material Lunar Truth holds that has the site completely offline. Is it overloaded? Or do you buy into the conspiracy theories on Yahoo Answers that ‘Nasa shut them down’.

LunarTruth.com Apollo 18s Secret Footage Site




882 Comments


  1. Mnmcutie

    I bet you guys that some one hacked into NASA or where ever they keep the secret footage, took the videos and made it as a movie!!!!! Then NASA hired the best person they could to hack into LunaTruth.com and get the the site offline! (we saw this movie earlier tonight. creepy. seemed like real footage!!!!


    • Trevor Wasney

      your so stupid its not real, you probly think paranormal activity is real too


      • Donovan

        Or that the government blew up the World Trade Centers. Which in my opinion, is treasonous to make a statement. But when asked “Was Obama born in America?”, They say “Well, he wouldn’t be able to take office if he wasn’t. That’s what the law says!” People will believe anything they hear with no evidence. If the Government had that kind of power to hide an act like 9/11, Couldn’t they have done a cleaner job? Couldn’t they have got “those papers” just by walking in and just take them with no questions? Anyway……..NEXT!!!


        • FracturedSplinter

          Actually the
          trade center buildings could not possibly drop so perfectly without help.

          They have a
          massive counter balance weight (imagine a two story thick slab of cement) in
          the top of the buildings that shift from side to side to counter act the sway
          from wind. It is physically impossible for these flat slabs to drop perfectly
          down the core of the buildings without spitting out of the side of the
          buildings at some point. After the first attacks on the base of the buildings
          the assessment was that if they were to fall over they would destroy more than
          twenty square blocks and the death toll would be unacceptable. Thus many of the
          tall buildings are now designed and/or retrofitted to be imploded.

          Have you
          ever knocked down a house of cards? Did it fall into a neat stack…nope? It is
          one of those horrible things in life where one has to make the decision when to
          sacrifice some to save many.

          I feel for
          the one that has to push the button.

           


        • FracturedSplinter

          Actually the
          trade center buildings could not possibly drop so perfectly without help.

          They have a
          massive counter balance weight (imagine a two story thick slab of cement) in
          the top of the buildings that shift from side to side to counter act the sway
          from wind. It is physically impossible for these flat slabs to drop perfectly
          down the core of the buildings without spitting out of the side of the
          buildings at some point. After the first attacks on the base of the buildings
          the assessment was that if they were to fall over they would destroy more than
          twenty square blocks and the death toll would be unacceptable. Thus many of the
          tall buildings are now designed and/or retrofitted to be imploded.

          Have you
          ever knocked down a house of cards? Did it fall into a neat stack…nope? It is
          one of those horrible things in life where one has to make the decision when to
          sacrifice some to save many.

          I feel for
          the one that has to push the button.

           


          • Tenaciousd_94

            Have you ever tried to knock that house of cards down with a 747 jumbo jet? No. I agree with you that they imploded it to save lives or that the specific structure made it fall that way, but the people inside that building were as good as gone anyway. And how have you become such a genius on how giant skyscrappers fall when they are hit by jets? Have you tried it personally?


          • FracturedSplinter

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4erFzhC-U
            I build, design and knock down. I didn’t do the one in the video but it gives you a good perspective. 


          • FracturedSplinter

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4erFzhC-U
            I build, design and knock down. I didn’t do the one in the video but it gives you a good perspective. 


          • EngineeringGeek69

            Great shot FS!  notice how the building began to slide to the right?  I’m pretty sure this was a counterbalance design as it began to look like it was going to slide but suddenly backed up.  This was possible from the enormous counter-balance in the center of the building being blown the other way.  Spectacular stuff.


          • Guest

            Finally someone unlike all of the Sheeple !!!


          • Bluwater13

            yeah but when the world trade center went down there wasn’t any bombs that we could here but if you actually look at the footage one of the planes that crashed into it had a black square  on the bottom like an attachment for rockets but a split second  before the plane hit if you stop the video u can see the building explodes before the plane hit it can you explain that???


          • Sick of this crap

            Oh JEEZUS!!! Will you and all the other conspiracy theorists PLEASE take your meds and return to reality with the rest of us? There was NO controlled drop. I watched the entire incident from the first crash to the last second I could hold my eyes open. I HAD to interject that one iota of sanity before I really blast you nit-wits….YOU ARE ON A MOVIE SITE YOU BUNCH OF COMPLETE BOOGER EATING MORONS! Good GOD! NONE OF THIS IS REAL. IT  WAS FILMED ON A SOUNDSTAGE! AND NOBODY CONSPIRED TO BLOW UP THE WTC EXCEPT THE TERRORISTS WHO DIED ON THE PLANES WITH THE REST OF THE VICTIMS. Did I yell loud enough for you to hear me over the other voices in your heads? I sure hope so.


          • Dwayne1523

            Oh, I see! Look slick, I totally agree with the fact that I’m not seeing much conversation about the movie, but you’re missing somethng. They can say what they want just like you, however, your opinion means nothing just like theirs so why even engage in moronic conversation if you’re not a moron yourself…think about that for minute patriot!


          • Ccabanas23

            well no one knows for sure if this movie is really or not the government hides lots of things and what about the documentary that says that bush said  that the airplanes had hit the twin towers while he was visiting this school and  it hadnt even happen yet! AND  NO ONE KNOWS THE TRUTH  AND JUST HOW U SAY OUR OPINIONS  MEAN NOTHING THE SAME GOES TO U IDIOT!


          • guest

            TO ALL: Understand the world around you and be humble. your perception is just as important and insignificant as everything else is. the fact that we exist is proof of this.


          • Katastrofa

            i think everyone has a right to freedom of speech but it doesn’t make what they say a fact, i agree that this is def just movie footage, for Gods sake it is why too brightly colored and the camera angles had to have been taken by profressionals and also there is a cast in the credits…. so there you are. if you can pinpoint facts then proove something and btw if there really was a conspiracy do you really think they cant find out who is writing this stuff and make them dissappear…. come on think about it…..


          • Katastrofa

            btw the comment i just wrote is to everyone sorry i used you dwayne….


          • Boattech99

            i agree


          • Pme8907

             You lost all academic credit when you decided to insult people so I didn’t even finish reading the garbage you posted. Regardless of the fact that a statement made may be false, when people like you use infantile rhetoric to suppress other ideas your just contributing to what your comment is against… Ignorance. By posting your comment you probably just made more people disagree with what you said. I don’t even know why I’m spending the time to comment.


          • richardmoney

            Fuck you too


          • cerial

            fuck u guy


          • Urmom

            ur a gay fag so shut up


          • richardmoney

            I didn’t mean you


          • richardmoney

            Then explane the thermite chemical found in the debris?


          • classified

            There is no fucking way that building should have fell straight down like that. There was not enough heat generated to make the whole building collapse. I have been in the military long enough to know that this country has had enough corrupt personnel in office to pull shit off like this and if you don’t think that there is your just as fucking stupid as you claim other people to be. Go back and watch your so called film and you will see the controlled explosions going off as the building is collapsing. We have been investigating this for years and have leads. Im no conspiracy person, but I tell you this, this was an inside job. Don’t speak unless you know what the fuck you are talking about.


          • marsha

            Although the thought of the government being willing to destroy that building is unsettling, you have to look at it form their perspective, If they did do this inside job, it was a utilitarian decision they did for the benefit of the many blocks of people who were outside the building and in danger if the building fell to the side, however, i would recommend perhaps a little more research before anyone makes serious claims like this?
            And as for the move…. They name the actors at the en of the film, it is difficult to argue that this possibly could be real with credits given at the end, and stealing this footage from the government would be something that would be kept hidden, for people’s own safety. Just the idea that people bought in this no longer makes me wonder why America is so far behind in education. 
            And I am a high school student.


          • Thinker

            Hey Marsha, I’m a high school student too albeit not from America (although I did live in America for 5 years) but I am. So think about this: they say that SOME real footage is in he movie, let’s say there is alright?
            Now of course there would be credits at the end, not all the footage was real right? Okay now if the U.S. Government did not want people to know of this then they could have simply shut down the movie right? But THAT my friend, would look suspicious 


          • Uknown

            Exactly. They Dont Do Anything Because If Ppl Start Missing And Things Start To Get ShutDown It Would Look Suspicious. What Makes it Ridiculous to me Is THE WAR ON TERROR. I Mean Seriously That Could Go On For Another Decade. The Homeland Security Bill, The Patriot Act, The Terrorist Bill, Thumb Scanners and Retina Scans, Face Recognition, and a ton of other things that invade our privacy. As far as im Concerned its a war on Freedom. All in the name of terror. Just “Watch 911 In Plane site.” The Guy Also Has A Talk Show. Personally I can’t believe he is still alive. I’m petty sure he’s been warned though. I Also Believe Oklahoma City a Was An Inside Job. I Mean shit Osama Was Trained, Funded, And Put Into Power By The CIA. War Is Money. In Order For Defense Contracors To Stay In Power They Need Money. Meaning A Enemy. And What Better than An Enemy That Has No Country. Terrorism. Like Dick Chaney Said The War On Terror Can Last Decades.


          • Thinker

            (Read my bottom comment first) Continuing: wouldn’t it? so they let the footage roll, a lot of people will see it as a hoax, or The Blairwitch Project on the moon and some people out there will insider it to be true. Then the publicize the site lunar truth.com/org but guess what it doesn’t work right?  In the end no one’s really sure whether parts of this movie were true or not and nobody know whether to get hyped about this or not and in the end the Government has won yet again and really the result is well pointless hype (in some peoples opinions). My friend, in the end it’s really all about the human psychology. It’s all about the publics response to this movie not whether the footage is real or not. In fact the government may have been in favour of this project because it made everyone believe that this movie and the footage was all a hoax if in fact it was real which was our situation. So just think about it, think about it from every angle before you respond. I’m not saying what I have written is true, I’m just thinking about all the possibilities. ;D


          • Shadow Ashlar

            well thought out 


          • Ccabanas23

            i totally agree with u:)


          • Guest

            where can i look at these videos?


          • Zertsius

            termite is a combination of aluminum (common material in airplane bodies for it is strong, flexible, and light weight), and iron oxide, or, rust. It takes a high tempature to ignite the combination of the two, but JP8, or jet fuel, burns hot enough to do the job. Im not debating this point with anyone. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, I would like to ask everyone who reads this comment, please, PLEASE, just mind who you talk to about this. A lot of in the service have had brethren who have given their lives to this, We all would like to assume that were fighting for a legit reason, and that 4484 of our fellow warriors, or friends, our brothers and sisters, are not dying for a conspiracy, thank you.


          • Groberts116

            If 911 was a conspiracy, and I have no idea one way or the other, but, if it were, not reporting the truth because we have to pretend a war, any war is  ligitimate to justify the deaths of American warriors is a worse afront to our fallen combatants.  It’s far more important to insure that all combat events are absolutely necessary. 


          • Apollo 18 guy commenter

            It doesnt matter if the ffotage is real but didnt u see how the angles werent exact u idiot not u dude i was just talking to the people above but if it were a professional camera crew they would make the angles exact have u never noticed that in movies before it might be real thats my opinion but i might be wrong as well as others but all the chemicals is real they would never do that on stage but the bugs are fake to me because if they were real the goverment wouldnt be able to hide it but the cast could just be editors also but frequently now i speak of my word.


          • Chris__rideout

            If your so worried about so many people dying due to a conspiray shouldnt you be equally concerned that if proven a conspiracy, 4484 men/women were technically murdered by the american government.


          • Fillitup79

             explain why they would steal all the surveillance videos of the pentagon attack


          • Www Johnny

            Keep your opinions of people being stupid to yourself. If you don’t like this “crap” then don’t read it. If you don’t have anything nice to say don’t friggin say it.


          • what

            You must be gay


          • what

            Nobody was talking to you anyway, you must be one of those then skined people that think this society runs on candy canes and lolly pops. If people like you ran this world we would have a 9/11 every year. Go back home and suck on your mothers titty!!!!!


          • marsha

            you are seriously rude. People are just sharing their opinions, just like you. If you don’t want to here anyone else’s opinion, maybe yu should consider a different way to spend your obviously abundant time.


          • cerial

            ura bitch… if they set up jfk then wat makes u say they didnt on the trade center??? dont b a dick kk


          • QE.

            Do yourself a favor… be open to the possibility that not everyone on this planet has your best interest at heart. Be open to the possibility that your government lies to you. And be open to the idea – that maybe, just maybe, half of us whackjobs – are educated professionals who ask questions like “why”, and “how”. These questions are the glass that separates the crazies from the doctors.


          • EngineeringGeek69

            Very well said.


          • Fillitup79

            it was an inside job and your all  fools


          • Elias Suarez1

            open ur eyes bro jet fuel cant melt metal or burn through it so how did the plane make the building collapse. only thermite and super thermite can get hot enough to burn though steel. look at footages of controlled demolitions and youll see the towers fell the same way. Also larry silverstein wanted to demolish the towers but the city refused to give him the proper permits and his insurance had a clause for terrorist attacks which stated that he wouldnt be responsible for the clean up if such an event happened.


          • open your eyes.

            http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ Wake up out of the dream state reality that higher ups have fed you and focus on reality. maybe then their is hope for a better tomorrow where we dont all love in ignorance and stupidity.


          • gettoldunbiasdly

            People who tend to raise their voice in an argument is actually a sign of ignorance, unintellgence, and quite simply, knowing your wrong. If you cant find a better way then yelling, or getting angry to get your point accross,then 9 chancs out of 10, your wrong. Its people like you that have allowed the government to drive us so far into debt. Because your a sheeple and cant come up on your own ideas doesnt meant the rest of us with minds big enough to explore further then simply what were told to do or believe. This kinda makes you look like a domesticated animal. Sit Puppy, Roll Over, Now play nice!! Im not saying the movie is real, but ive never been to the moon to prove know the truth.


          • commander genarel

            you are clueless bet you never heard of black op`s .easey to see the people that are out of tuch with reality


          • Stardustangel82

            lol yu go  ! im hearin yu, n i agree! 


          •  You gone so FAR, the US Government didn’t speak about the truth regarding with the 9/11 tragedy.

            Most of the systems of US Government has been HACKED and freeze, that’s why they didn’t tracked the Jumbo Jet going to World Trade Center, if they have the RADAR on that time they can blow it up before it goes to World Trade Center or even make an advise. 

            Aeronautical Radar can determine the exact Lat. and Long. of the plane.  However, they were downed and hacked for 30minutes.

            Can you imagine a plane crash nearby the GHQ (PENTAGON)…? Only fool can say, they didn’t expect that plane coming, LOL!

            We are on Computer Age and all things are Possible as long as you have the codes to do it. When Pentagon back online and they got the radar, they forceably shutdown the incoming flight 77 and crash nearby the GHQ.

            Did you know that…?

            More things happened around the world that US Government and its Allies say’s those are not exists…!

            Don’t you believe that there is living things outside of this EARTH…?

            They just know how to hide the truth but in this ERA, they can’t hide anywhere… everything can simply dig up on whatever barriers they put on.


          • trigger

            Liked what you have said but…..bit of advice?? Brush up on your written english grammar, it leaves something to be desired, meaning,people will focus on that and not what your saying….good luck


          • LPhoenix98

            @sick of this crap: The problem my friend is the majority of people on this site realize that it is plausible we launched Apollo 18 as a joint venture with the Soviet union for whatever reason. As to the space ticks, well, have you ever heard of poetic license ? AND, since this mission was never on record it means a black-op. Hence the discussion leading to other possible black-ops conducted in this country and else where. For instance, did you know the cold war was fought and won not on the fields of Vietnam or Afghanistan. Afghanistan simply put the straw on the camels back. We fought them in Africa and supplied billions of tons of war materiel causing what? Pandemic genocide. Ever hear of a place called Darfur? And you state you watched 911 from the time the first plane hit until you couldn’t hold your eyes open anymore, short attention span or what. The entire event of all collapses was something like 5 hours. It is also obvious you don’t know anything about structural engineering or physics for that matter. Building hit by aircraft in such a fashion don’t pancake. At some point the load becomes too heavy on one side and then it slides off taking massive structural components with it. To all the people here who are thinkers and actually have good ole’ common horse sense, I commend you. For those of you burying your head in the sand please just keep it there.


          • bill

            thank you for being the voice of reason


          • Guest

            Hey you know all of the terrorists are not dead. I’m just saying … How the hell would you know you dipshit…. Unless you have proof that a “conspiracy” as you s call it doesn”t exist… Then be ready to bring forth evidence to support your conclusion…. I mean it is only just a conclusion you asshole! :)


          • Trektank5150

            Yeah but please explain about building 7. If you don’t know about it look it up


          • Tj24

            I see what your saying. I never thought about that way.


          • EngineeringGeek69

            I’m a structural engineering student working on modeling, for now, new eco-cities that are self sufficient “bubbles” if you will.  One of the things we looked  at was how tall the dome or RAD center of the city could be without collapsing on it’s own weight.  When we looked at this we first looked to the designs of Mr. Minoru Yamasaki. ( Sorry if I misspelled  his name.)  Anyway what we found is that you can build a skyscraper to the moon using his skeletal frame model with like fractured splinter said a counter weight like in a cookoo clock..  We subjected a model of the towers, after painstakingly re-creating them, to seismic anaomalies ten times greater than the worse earth quake, wind tunnel tested it with winds in excess of 120 mph, terminal velocity, and finally and the hardest part, which was sub-contracted out, a crash from a scale size boeing  777 using real jet fuel.  Obviosly we couldn’t re-create all of the furniture sheet rock etc. but were able to use the same fire retardant on cross beams and perlines and make a ramp shaft where the stairs and empty shafts for elevators.  It withstood all but the 777.  the interseting thing though was the counter balance was unaffected.  In fact it did protrude through the size of the model.  Obviously this was a one time shot as it is extremely expensive to build a scale replica.  Much of our data credited Yamasaki’s design with saving hundreds of live because it was constructed so well.  It gave more time than anticapated in a catastrophic impact and burning jet fuel where the original plans of course never even thought of this possibilty.  We found that once the floors gave way they did pancake down but not in the same fashion.  In our testing the first 30 floors, or I should say the top 30 floors slid off taking the enormous west side wall and skeletal support with it.  The Counter balance bent at approximately 45 degrees in the same  direction and the building literally scattered all four sides below those thirty floors.  Much of our work was taken by The now HLS under some building and codification act.  I still don’t understand it, but they sure got mad when I asked about squibs and ferrous spherules found at the site.  This not an opinion it actually happened I hope it clears up any confusion about the preceding discussion.  Cheers!


          • Guest

            interesting try to condense the writing. phewf


          • Pme8907

            Very interesting. Thank you for posting this. 


          • Kuku

            I would just remind that building 7 was not hit by an airplane, yet it fall in “perfect” like fashion. Just saying. Only 3 steel frame buildings ever fail this way without help (being said) and all 3 on the same day in NY. Hmm … We have been told many proven lies by the US government, example WMDs in Iraq. Hitler won election by a landslide, because people believed anything. God created everything in 6 days. One needs to realize, that facts do not matter, only matters what people believe.


          • Guest

            Tenacious You have tried to suck your own dick for years to no sucsess, so you now suck someone elses dick. Just look at a fucking implosion and building 7 you fucking retard!


          • truth sayer

            mr.guest, i dont know why your being so rude, oh wait i jealous tht he actually knows what hes talking about. and he can actually ge some, you shove yo mammas vibrator up yo ass and call it a good time.


          • debunkifye

            That’s real intelligent boyz…real intelligent!


          • CATERRICCI69

            THAT WAS AWESOME, U ROCK!


          • Bdogg1985

            you talk like you know more then fractured splinter but in actuality you dont know crap.                                                u act like you know what the government does and doesn’t do,your just a smart a**,   idot


          • PenguinMejia

            I’m not taking a side here but its a very sad day for everyone when somebody misspells “Idiot”… XD


          • Jenn

            What’s it matter if our government did it or they did it this world has no respect for each other take a look around stealling rude behavior violence ext. Were terourist to our selves how can u play the blame game when mankind its self is bad


          • Pme8907

            Again… With the insults…. Horrible grammatical errors and an erroneous statement. That is what your post consists of. 


          • cerial

            life comes as it goes n yet people dont like it…. samething for the insults… jus let the shit go… if u felt insulted then damn poor u


          • me

            Im in construction and i will tell you that they are built to take hits by planes…the way they fell is the way a building falls when it is demolished…did you realize there was a 3rd building that fell that day…you probably dont cause most people dont


          • raoul

            news for you look into WTC conspiracy busted, it will explain everything that’s the thing with you conspiracists you only research what you want to believe and only believe what you want to believe. yes the world trade centers were made to withstand a plane crash but the biggest plane around was pretty small compared to the one that hit the towers when the towers were built. and the way they fell is perfectly fine there was some thing about how fast they fell, something about free fall speed, ya sure it looks like 8 seconds or whatever but that camera is a long ways away and doesn’t capture the last third of the building or so falling down because of all the other tall buildings around it. As for WTC 7 or whatever dam building it was that just “magically fell over” theres plenty of videoes that show plenty of debris from WTC 1 and 2 falling into it at that point it was structurally unstable and ordered to be brought down with a controlled demolition. thank you for reading this it just drives me a little crazy when people dont do all the research they possibly coud and go shouting from the rooftops about something they dont fully understand


          • Zed

            you didn’t do your homework. you did just what is expected. you believed the first thing you read. now your trying to disprove theories without doing ant homework.


          • zed

            although I do think apollo 18 is just a movie and nothing more…


          • Caterricci69

            i like that!


          • Question__everything

            Actually… any person who’s witnessed a controlled demolition, might have an educated guess on the specific falling nature, of a building…or a house of cards.


          • Daz

            it’s common sense they would not fall down in a perfect line! wise up please


          • Schmitty8

            ok so i guess that the pentagon was hit with a cruise missle…………………Are you a idiot you people are messed up in the head and the footage apollo 18 i mean aliens that are rocks aliens destroying lunar landers are you people crazy


          • Rossbwilliam

            Don’t be such a Dumbass American. Open your eyes. I have a friend who works in your government who has confirmed many strange occurrences on that day that point towards an inside job. If you look at the Pentagon footage it is a missile you idiot. OPEN YOUR EYES! Every person outside the US thinks you are gullible idiots, don’t make us all right!


          • Rossbwilliamisafag

            Fuck you don’t travel to our country then. Don’t try to live here. Oh wait, it’s not so bad after all compared your shithole you live in. Your friend is a stupid cunt just like you and your whole family.


          • Justice

            you idiot little piece of crap.You have no right to tell people get out of your country(anyways no attention to be there) before your fucking soldiers get the fuck out of iraq,afghanistan and many others.Just watch the documentary ”Zeitgeist” if you have balls to find out the TRUTH…


          • justsaying

            So u belive that the nazis, dident gas the jews in concentration camps, and Sadam dident try to do the samething to his people.  Thank god i live in the USA where u can tell someone to get out of your country, otherwise i think that we would be gased or shot. But i belive that this movie is a movie, and little bits of the footage was real for the movies sake.


          • dEEkAy

            what about hiroshima and nagasaki with nukes? what’s with vietnam and napalm?


          • Fergstl

            That’s what happens when you really piss off Americans. Don’t provoke…


          • Zen

            Ignorance and arrogance, and plain stupidity. This is why I hate being American. Yeesh… even takes on the name “Americans” when not even a Native lol…


          • Conan

            funny, in fact, you never won a war you started :)  you are just far away heroes, in face to face you suck :)))


          • Super G Marine dad

            Dec. 7,1941  enough said


          • cerial

            shut the hell up… ur stupid.. first question??? how the hell do u get bombing nations from aliens on the moon??? shut the fuck up and jus do urself a favor


          • cerial

            ur fucking stupid… thats a completely different war scenario u stupid fuck… heres a hint?? get ur head out of ur own ass!! for christ sake it needs some air guy 


          • Ioryyagami98

            well said! Just look up youtube for ‘why Americans are stupid” and you got your answer :P


          • Darren

            you got issues man!


          • Unanimous

            If you think you’re free you’re a fucking retard I live in this country and realize that you’re not able to do anything and everything you want, government owns your stupid ass so shut the fuck up cut the crap, I’m not even 18 years old yet and I feel like I know more about government than you, what reason is there behind your argument? You have more freedom than the next person I know for a fact government doesn’t tell the people everything and if you had any common sense you’d realize to government you’re just another body, you like me are worthless compared to the president who does nothing with his position but it is his position that keeps him safe and keeps people willing to take a bullet for him you’re as worthless to government as the people in that movie, whether or not it was based on a true story, I choose to believe it has some truth to it so if everyone here is really free let them voice their opinion and shut your fucking mouth worthless fuck


          • Annoy

            This is going to be a very narrow comment which is going to be a pain in the ass to read just like the one above me because I’m just a dick like that and I can’t find anywhere else to attach my shitty little Hate post on somebody else’s shitty little Hate post, but whatever. I’m more surprised than you are that you finished reading this post.


          • nicky

            you dick. i thought you were gonna say something cool


          • Yourllallwrong@noton.com

            what he said


          • Matrus88

            This made it all worth to read :)


          • Kayla Duehr

            You are 100% fucking right they dont get this shit. the governmeant will fuck you over. 


          • Hornethandler86

            how can you knock the government with your freedom of speech when they are the ones that grant you that freedom don’t be so ignorant that you don’t realize how the world really works…you say you aren’t yet 18…then you have no idea how this all works so you should keep your mouth shut and let the people that have done the real research do the talking yes most of these other people on here are moronic and make ignorant statements also but you dont know anything about the world…im in the military and have been dealing with how the government treats its employee’s (me and my friends) for over 7 years, almost half your life, and know that the government is flawed but just because you are granted the freedom of speech doesn’t mean you should use it against the government its means you should use it for some kid of good like maybe go to college and learn something and find out what really happened…just a thought…


          • Oppionionstogo

            guess what they teach us in the rest of the world. that your history is contrived and false with facts to go. watch any ABC or SBS documentary on the great so called free country, do our way or die. do you realy thing you are free


          • American Kitsuni

            We americans actually dont have our rights as citizens anymore. If the military suspects anyone of terrorism they have the right to take away your american rights, they can hold you indefinatly without a trail and assasinate you.


          • Raul Silveyra

            Finally, thanks you have some common sense, clearly they think being “free” holds all their right, guys, what happens if we blow through all our soldiers? Clearly if there’s a war going on government is going to start drafting people you morons haven’t the slightest clue of what government really does..Idiots..


          • Patriciac 2000

            ilam with you tell’em


          • Diesani9

            love Zietgeist. That movie(s) have you really wondering if all of it is the truth


          • guest

            You talk like the United State is the shit………do you remeber what happen during the Vietnam war…exactly, the US backed out because they were a bunch of pussy.


          • bluwater

            yeah shit head we were also getting killed read some more history books dumb ass


          • Marshaam

            Okay, they were NOT a bunch of pussies!  They were just doing their job because of what DICK NIXON said to do.  They had no choice but to do what they did.  It wasn’t our troops fault, it was the damn governments fault.  Our troops are NOT pussies, they are FAR from it.


          • WTF

            OK, if you knew your American History it was actually President Ford who completed the withdraw from Vietnam. Also “FAKE MOVIE IS FAKE”


          • HIstory is cool

            Yea from a combined effort of LBJ and NIXON’s craze to exploit communism in  little theaters of the world. Most orders DID come from tricky dicky, plenty being fucking illegal, like the bombing of Cambodian supply lines. Pres. Ford was know pussy, he was exercising the opinion of American citizens everywhere. The soldiers were fucking champs who were done in by a government that made it seem like WWIII festered in every corner that was “un-free” (have a different economic system)

            However, fear of Stalin was legit. Lul guy is a nut!


          • Apollo 18 guy commenter

            yep exactly but are troops always proceeed overcome and proceed agian and prevail in victory


          • Kayla Duehr

            It is shit


          • LPhoenix98

            Okay let me be VERY CLEAR ON THIS POINT.  Our forces in Vietnam won damn near every battle they engaged in.  They successfully infiltrated into neighboring Laos and Cambodia bringing back valuable intelligence proving the North was using these countries as staging bases WITH both countries knowledge but because our politicians were so fucked up and still are they refused to expand the war and cut off the NVA and Viet-Cong from their supply lines.  Our troops won the war, our politicians lost it.  I dare you to make that statement to a Vietnam Vet face to face, it would be funny to watch you get your ass kicked by an old man.


          • aEuropeanAssinineAss

            The United States won nearly every battle in vietnam, we backed out due to notorious riots and public unrest, we could have stayed and won however at a great cost of soildiers. so we backed out Also the United States has the best millitary only germany and russia are runner up’s and china i guess but china just has more people which is why the are high ranking,.


          • truther

            search gulf of tonkin flase flag attack. usa used that to occupy vietnam. 9/11 is also another false flag attack.


          • Johnlutz6400

            no actually numbnuts the us govt and its ass whole protesters lost that war not the soldiers….


          • lllllllll

            It’s funny how foreign cock-suckers talk shit about america but they will pimp their children out so they can fund their relocation to america.


          • Abcd

            Funny ass shit


          • Belgerin

            I’m a little confused as to why people are talking about the world trade centre and vietnam, I thought this was a movie website, and this one was about the Lunar Missions and Apollo 18 footage? everyone is free to believe what they like, but how about sticking to the topic…


          • Whitewolf031384

            Well ‘guest’ I notice u didn’t use a real name so what pussy country r u from? I am an american and ur not! Hoorah!!


          • Jstn07

            Why don’t you sign in on something besides guest,before you talk shit about the U.S. you unpatriotic pussy!!!


          • Patriciac 2000

            stupet racist idiot take you people out of the others countries first..and then open you stuped mouth..and just for the record without immigrants this country is nothing


          • Bluwater13

            no shit this countrys made of immigrants idc who u are  if u live in america ur an immigrant or a realative of an immigrant unless ur 100% native american and thats very very rare


          • Immigration

            Even then the Native Americans immigrated from Asia across the Bering Land Bridge. We are all immigrants unless you happen to be a potato or corn. 


          • heart79605

            actually the native americans are the exiles from the 10 lost Isralite tribes :P


          • llllllllllll

            The indians shouldnt have been  on our land before we discovered it.


          • 100% Native American

            Rare because “immigrants” killed most of us. WHY?


          • guest

            haha you should learn how to spell stupid you moron (;


          • Hornethandler86

            why would you wink after that…just for sayings sake im going to venture to say that you are american an just feel the need to talk shit not sure why i feel the need to reply to your ignorant statement but it felt right so i did…you are probably another one of those young kids that think you are all hard when you come onto these sites and interject your moronic comments into peoples conversations…you make absolutely no sense and have no class or dignity so i say stay away from America and stay out of conversations about our lives and the lives of people who have died defending this country and trying, whether they suck at it or not, to make this country a better place…


          • llllllll

            All who hate america can eat a shit-coated black dick.


          • Liquidforce19

            Now I know that some people think that there are lots of things wrong with every picture, it’s our way of looking at things, critizing, judging. There is no real answer to the movie nor too the whole thing about the trade centers, except thoughs who had to die while witnessing the plane hit or thoughs on apollo 18, we wish to know but truly we will never. Except what has happend even if its hard to understand because there will always be a reason for everything, wether it’s a pro or a con. There are more questions then answers.  


          • Nonyabusiness

            Go fuck yourself you inbred hillbilly piece of shit


          • Kayla Duehr

            SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ASSFACE MOTHER FUCKING CUNT BITCH ASS!!!!!


          • justsaying

            In my opinon if everbody outside the USA thinks we are gullible idiots, then germans are even more so because of the nazis and the how they let one of the most horrific genosides that the human race has ever seen, but i bet u think that footage was faked to.  But the movie was good.


          • Zen

            USA are not good guys… you talk about Nazis but you never talk about the mass murders that we’ve committed… don’t be so one sided – otherwise your argument is flawed


          • Bdogg1985

            exactly,that person is a big fucking dipshit.


          • LPhoenix98

            I think what Zen was referring to is the American holocaust.  Yes there was an American holocaust.  We called it manifest destiny, the Native Americans called it a slaughter, which is exactly what it was.  The Trail of Tears for the Cherokee the Indian wars against the Apache, the lies that were told to the the Indian Tribal councils and blankets laden with small pox.  Orders were even given to soldiers not to waste ammunition on women and children instead they were directed to use their rifle butts and boot heels.  Once we had them in reservations they were  given rotten meat and when they would try to leave the reservation to hunt for food they were killed under the guise that they were uprising.  This is American history, these things happened and it makes me ashamed to be an American.  With so many minorities calling for restitution the only people in my opinion that deserve it are American Indians.


          • Bluwater13

            in vietnam the bad guys would dress as civilians and they couldn’t bomb em because they didn’t know who was who my dad said he remembered hopless harmless people getting blown to bits because they couldn’t risk them getting away so they just killed everybody so i definetely agree with you on that one


          • Theunknowuser1

            The black death that hit the human race between 1348 and 1350 had the worst ever human death toll this worls has ever known. 50% the worlds pop. of that time was wiped out. You could combine every war and natural catastrophes and not even come close to the death toll that caused. That was nature fighting back.


          • Ellomoto135

            Your numbers are way off on that, Europe took the hardest hit with the black death and only had 1/3 of it’s population die.


          • Sword

             Nice one ellomoto. There are too many people here posting which have just a vague idea about what they are  talking about (ex: theunknownuser).

            Take your head from weed and movies and put it in some books, that’s the only way to get some culture. That’s kinda rare in our days.


          • Penguin

            Do you know what history is??? After all you just raped it… *facepalm*


          • .........................

            That wasnt really nature it was just them being really disgusting and allowing rats to go where they pleased like on their tables and shit and the fleas from those rats carried the plauge…


          • Gimpystephen

            Hell,I agree,most americans are blinded to the truth and think their goverment would NEVER lie to them,or start a war for no reason what so ever,they would never cover up anything such as watergate,the killing of millions with nukes,or leaving their fellow americans in a jungle for years just to be forgoten and to rot away.no the us goverment would NEVER do that.well,if your one of these dumb ass americans that beleave that,have at er.the americans that slow down and ask questions,like me,have known for years that the us goverment is nothing more then a machine to keep the people BLINDED.they do nothing but take our money,lie,spend our money,lie some more.I hate this goverment. That the usa has become,and hope I live long enough to take part in the civil war,that every REAL american,sees coming. …….you fucking reatared american…..I find it sad that you call yourself one………..


          • race driver

            agreed civil war is what will end this world not some natural disaster and it all because of government you said it best


          • Strat9017

            I agree with this guy unfortunately. You kind of people are what makes our beautiful country seem retarded.


          • fkarepub

            Stop trying…they probably only believe what fox news has trained them to believe. Look, if you have to lower your IQ to try explain something, it’s best to just leave it and move on. Trust me! Dumb asses will be dumb asses. Ya just can’t fix stupid.


          • Kuku

            I would just remind that building 7 was not hit by an airplane, yet it fall in “perfect” like fashion. Just saying. Only 3 steel frame buildings ever
            fail this way without help (being said) and all 3 on the same day in
            NY. Hmm … We have been told many proven lies by the US government,
            example WMDs in Iraq. Hitler won election by a landslide, because people believed anything. God created everything in 6 days. One needs to realize, that facts do not matter, only matters what people believe.


          • Vtpinthestreets

            i agree dude.these people eyes r shut. the real dictators of this world has done an excellent job of blinding you guys.


          • T Unrue

            I’m not crazt but there is no evidence of any ariliner debris at the site of the pentagon and the hole that was there definatly wasnt big enough eihter besides the traffic that was on the highway would have been blown over by yhe blast from the engines


          • Bluwater13

            i agree it was a missle


          • KYFHO69

            Most folks have never seen the actual footage that has been removed from YouTube and all the other sites that clearly showed the hole in the Pentagon was made by a missile.  I have video tapes from all the news footage on 9/11 and I can tell you, I have yet to see ANY aircraft wreckage at the Pentagon.  Most of you Sheeple need to wake the fuck up and do some research before you type stupid shit.


          • Kayla Duehr

            I fucking like you i have the 9/11 new footage too


          • Fdsdfg

            ljalskdjfals’dfjas’ldfa


          • Ice_Wolf

            SPIDER ROCKS!!!! Really? cant come up with anything better then that? ROFL!!! how dumb. it probably would have been better if it was Demons posing as aliens ROFL


          • jadeswagger

            IDR!!!!


          • Kayla Duehr

            you dont know what the fuck is out there none of us do but you say that its dumb. well you know there is some animals out there that can make them look like part of a rock or tree so before you say shit like that you what the fuck you are talking about


          • Not You -Thankfully

            I have some swamp land to sell you  in Fla.  It is available for the uneducated.   As long as you can spell ;fuck’, financing is available  


          • Jay78

            Who is to say that cats couldnt be aliens? the egyptians worshipped them like gods. who is to say that we are not aliens? we are not like any other being on earth. we have communitys and social interaction and everything else that makes us human. I dont know if aliens are real, but i know that the possibility is great. we have more quality evidence showing the existance of aliens, loch ness monster, and sasquatch, then we do of electrons. so explain how you know you have a brain if you havent seen it? trust. everything you know is on trust or experience, so dont disprove anyhting until you have experienced it.
             


          • Trippin101096

            I personally think that was the smartest point said on this page. Nobody really knows what is going on. We are all left in the dark. We truly dont know what happened with the 9/11 attacks and we dont know what is really out there. We r not God nor are we a higher being to understand anything else. Yes the people who are big enough to know about our government keep it a secret so we all need to stop pretending that we think we know. Stuff will always be bigger than what we can find out.


          • for the last two, the more intelligent comments.

            “there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, horatio”


          • Brenda27saavedra

            U haven’t been up at moon!!well if u think dz shit real why even bother commenting.We all know that drz something up dr!!!!!!


          • Schmitty8

            ok so i guess that the pentagon was hit with a cruise missle…………………Are you a idiot you people are messed up in the head and the footage apollo 18 i mean aliens that are rocks aliens destroying lunar landers are you people crazy


          • Schmitty8

            hey dummy when the jet hit the tower it almost cut the building in half because it was going so fast the building was unstable the jet fuel pretty much burned through enough of the remaining steel to make unstable therefore the building collapsed on itself  and the south tower imploded


          • Getitnow05

            Can anybody tell me what happen to building number 7 and tell me why Bush Sr was meeting with Bin Laden’s brother on the Carlyle Group or if you have this preconceived notion that government would not kill American citizens for financial benefit why don’t you look into the Gulf of Tonkin that didn’t even happen and the result was the veitnam war which killed 58,000 if you really look beyond the conspiracy videos and read throughout history 9/11 would insult your intelligence.


          • Romax15280

            most of you dont have a clue what your talking about, i have watched endless footage from various angles as well as watched video and interviews with specialists in construction, demolition and airline manufacturers, so i will let you in on a few facts.

            If you watch slowed down footage of the second plane hitting you will notice that , at the base of the building there is an explosion that starts at the bottom then goes left to right with explosions all the way up the buiilding, there are explosions going off, the first explosion takes place even before the plane connects with the building.

            aeronautical engineers that specialise in aircraft crash sites have stated and swore to, that jet fuel would not burn hot enough to melt the steel in the towers this was proven with a test and the steel was not even bendable never mind melting to the point that all of the steel in the structure, some of it not even near the explosion or jet fuel burning, would collapse the towers.

            Demolition experts have also stated and swore that there is no way on earth that the towers would come down straight like they did even saying that it would take expert knowledge in explosives and demolitions with lots of planning to get them to fall like that, when the towers were built risk reports also said that if the towers were to collapse(not controlled) they would take out about 20 square blocks.This was an official document of 1200 pages conviently these papers were lost in a fire in world trade 7 which also was destroyed in the attacks.

            Firemen actually in the second tower, at the lobby of tower 2  said that they could hear explosions occuring just before the tower collapses these are the same firemen who were then trapped in tower2.
            Victims on the ground also confirmed this. 

            The pentagon was never hit with a plane either , where was the debris? why was the only section of the pentagon hit conveniently under construction, meaning no more casualties, why did no one in the pentagon see the plane coming or anyone outside not see a huge airliner jetting across the front lawn of the pentagon, which leads us on to if there was a plane flying across the lawn at the height stated by investigators in relation to the impact height why were no lamp posts or trees disturbed when the aircrafts wingspan alone would have taken everything round about it down, also meaning that on approach to the pentagon the first thing to come off of the plane would have been wing parts, where are they? couldnt have burned up as would have detached before impact explosion point.

            Footage was also uncovered that shows an interview of a man being asked about what happened just after the first tower was hit, the time stamp on that video was dated 2 days prior to the towers being hit,so happens that the same man was also interviewed just after the towers were hit saying basically the same as in the video 2 days prior, rehearsed or what ? now this guy has disappeared off the face of the earth.

            Do some research next time before telling everyone there full of it, your just the sort of person these people are relying on to make their plan work , gullible, gullible, gullible.

            Also if you want to know why they would do it and who they are ? then look into the Illuminate, The rothchilds, The bildenburgs etc.


          • Jigzy deal with it

            romax dont be stupid physics proves its real look at the science not gossip an objects falls vertically not horizontally its call gravity             really look on line for the scientific facts             THE FACTS              and u will see Einstein  you call people gullible thats laughable


          • Guest

            911= insidejob = american sheeple


          • Educated Guest.

            HAAHAA!! Jigzy, You’re SO stupid!.  I’m sure you don’t even know what an out-of-plane-stress-state is. Nor what a transient natural frequency sinusoidal vector amplification is. 
            -Sincerely,MSc. in Aerospace engineering. 
            “Don’t argue with stupid people, they will bring the discussion down to their reasoning level and win by experience”.


          • Bdogg1985

            thats like saying, if u cut a tree down it won’t fall sideways, you dumb ass mother fucker,u want to sound smart but u dont make any fucking sence,


          • Dwayne1523

            ummmm…dipshit! No it’s not! That’s a whole different issue, a whole new law of physics. I don’t agree with it all, even though a lot of it makes plenty of sense, but let me tell you…you could be bought and sold if the money was right. Mother fuckers go to very low levels to make money. That includes the wealthy and powerful not just the poor. And if they have the money and the power they’ll go to what ever level they need to and pay for the resources to make it look like something it’s not. Say what you want but your obviously ignorant as they come. Take a knee.


          • Anonymous

            Apollo 18 is just a movie to entertain us. Is there alot of unknown sources out there that we don’t know about that the government is holding back definitely there is guys ALOT. Was US goverment part of this 9/11 attack definately was! probably not all but that’s a small percentage. the powerful ones who have total control definitely was, starting with that fagget G. Bush, you guys can’t honestly say you trust your US government please don’t be fooled. Just look they can’t even fixs
            US<—
            -U nited
            -S tates, smh don't be fooled seriously


          • Anonymous

            Oh btw both times “Terrorists” attacked the WTC both Bushes were presidents. like father, like son if that doesn’t land as hmmm something fishy in our government then idk what can be. Just saying history says alot guys & doing some reading/ research gives knowledge, don’t listen to the media they only say what they know or want to tell us. The guys in here who think this is all shananigans & believe that our US Government means well for us are blind & should be ashamed for lack of knowledge, coming in here commenting on something they don’t bother looking into smh pitiful.


          • Engineering geek 69

            In a perfect world without an atmosphere I agree, the towers would have fell straight down.  But there are a number of factors to consider such as outside forces.  You referenced Einstein who stated an object set into motion will stay in motion until acted upon by an outside force.  Now he more or less proved the theory of Sir Isaac Newton.  The outside forces would have been wind, from that high up I would estimate at least 30 to 40 mph, sunlight, causing expansion on the outside and finally the counter balance or load dampener which keeps the building from swaying under all of the above.  In order for the towers to pancake floor after floor would take more outside forces to keep them in line other wise the uneven load would cause the falling floors to slide one way or the other tearing off the skeletal frame work which would cause a catastrophic disintegration of the other three sides of the building falling outward or in the same direction as the  original wall.  Basically it is impossible to have the towers fall perfectly down without having an outside force acting upon them.  


          • Jigzy deal with it

            o yes romax a controlled demolition takes days to do you need hundreds of people and lots of explosives and prep u drill hole in the support beams wire explosive and cut out massive sections of supporting walls they did that when everbody was at work yes yes you dont know what your talking about hundreds of people died dont slander there memory


          • Guest

            HAHAHAHA dude take the foot out of your mouth. The trade centers were closed to ALL people 1 week before 911 . They were doing internet upgrades and also cut ALL power. Hmmmm sounds like a good day to plant some primacord and rdxc4 thermite ?  You sir are 1 dumbass mofo.


          • BERRYTRIN

            WEDONT WANT TA ADMIT IT THATS WHY SUMPEOPLE ACT LIKE THEY DO. BUT THATS OUR GOVERNMENT IS LIKE OUT FOR THIER OWN.


          • ANNOY

            “SUMPEOPLE”… You know I kinda like that word. Because “Somepeople” means nothing, but “Some People” means a
            undetermined amount of people. However, “SUMPEOPLE” must mean the sum of all people therefore meaning everybody!


          • Bdogg1985

            nicely put,they are fucking idots for thinking the government wouldn’t do something like.                   they will do anything to cover there asses.


          • Baldstrom

            The Pentagon is what troubles me about 9/11. I have been off and on believing that it was actually hit or not. Between the ages of seven and thirteen, I wanted to be a pilot, while I was learning, I realized that the 7(6/5)7 (forgot which) could never have been as untraceable as it was apparently. I realized this and yet it still keeps me wondering and I am still skeptical. Also, I wonder what happened to Flight 93, what was its purpose… I never really heard a conspiracy on it. I watched a movie called “Loose Change” and I still forgot about what they had to say about 93. But I know they said something about there not being enough remains to be a 757. However, I remember hearing about a crash in either Florida or the Andes, where there was no remains at all, it was a 737 though, I believe.


          • Mosese44

            Lmao I can’t believe ppl really believe the government did that lmao if the government is so ficked upland bad y do u stay here? Y not go to an other country? Maybe 1 where if u mentioned anything like this about there government u would just get shot in the face? Hummmmm I wonder way u don’t want to leave the us lmao I find it funny how ppl will talk shot about the us government but they stay lol


          • KYFHO69

            You my friend are extremely uneducated when it comes to our wonderful government.  Do some really deep research and you just might learn something…  I suppose you think the Oklahoma CIty bombings were done by two retards?  Do some research on that one as well and you will see the exact same circumstances surrounded it i.e. most federal workers such as judges and attorneys just so happened to have the day off.   This entire thread is so amusing in that is is very clear we have a bunch of gullible idiots who believe everything they see on CNN and Fox News


          • Sherondadawn

            Diva 70,

            To my knowledge there was only one bombing on okc (saying that ’cause I live here) and in my opinion yes they were perpetrated by retards. Use another example, I don’t like that one.


          • KYFHO69

            Suppose you missed out on the original radio recordings when police first entered the building…Yeah those mysteriously are missing as well.  Sherriff – We have another bomb that did not go off…”it has mil spec numbers on it.”…In case you don’t know what a mil spec number is, look it up…I don’t give a crap if you live in OK, you saw the same news as everyone else in the world.  Just because you live there does not make you special…Use a real example for me…bring some facts this time…


          • EngineeringGeek69

            I think the reason people stay in the U.S. even with such disdain for our politics is because they can have a voice and a medium to which they can voice their opinions.  The First Amendment guarantees us the right to voice our opinions without getting a shot in the arse, like after the Kursk Sank and an upset family member was tranquilized on television or shot in the face like you said.  The country is polarized, whether it be in believing in conspiracy theories or criticizing the government.  But, that freedom only goes so far.  You can’t say there is a fire in a theater when there is not and you can’t say I would shoot the President.  Understandably, on both counts.  But while we have the protections we enjoy and are given a forum for our discourse I think I’ll stay right where I’m at.  But God help the Republic, because we are in for some darker days ahead.  Freedoms will continue to erode until every responsible citizen exercising their Inalienable rights such as the 1st and 2nd amendment are hushed, searched, and their weapons confiscated.  After all, an unarmed populous is a society that lives in fear and when the people fear the government there is tyranny but when the government fears the people there is Liberty…  Thomas Jefferson   


          • LPhoenix98

             Who says you won’t get shot in the face here or have your brakes on your car suddenly fail if you say the wrong thing or uncover evidence that deny the powers that be.


          • Trippin101096

            This sounds really smart but realistically none of us will ever really know. Except the people involved. This saddens me that all these people lost their lives and still are from this tragedy. N 1 will ever really know except those who really knoow. THe argument is really to pray 4 those who lost people and let the rest go because u will never fix what happened!!!


          • Tripin101096

            excuse my spelling was typing fast


          • Guest

             Sir please stop snifing the glue


          • Webbygears

            u idiot a simple fire couldnt burn steel to the point of colllapsing


          • Bonestock69

            Jet fuel is K1 kerosen, it burns slower and colder than gasoline, its not hot enough to burn steel


          • Dwayne1523

            Well, I see we have a structural engineer on Lunartruth. Oh, I’ve always wanted the truth about those buildings falling. Thanks! 10 years and waiting I can sleep better now.  :-)


          • So your saying that the counter weight would fall faster then the building allowing us to see it as the building falls. You sir are a dumbass. 


          • LPhoenix98

            I can’t speak for FS, however the counter weight would have fallen WITH the anchors.  It is nearly impossible for the counter-balance to break free of it’s anchors.  Here is a picture of a counter weight in a similar structure In Taipei. The construction of the counter-weight or Dampener in the Taipei building is built for wind but mostly for seismic activity.  A catastrophic failure at some point would have the massive Dampener shift one way or another as it is intended to do.  At some point however that dampener would have shifted far enough to push outward on the skeletal frame work causing that wall to fall in direction with the dampener.  As we all learn in elementary school an object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an outside force.  Even the rigid steel in the center of the building would have been breached because of the high temperature of around 800degrees C.  So yes you are right you would not have seen the dampener fall unless it had been cut away (possibly by explosive or thermobaric pressure allowing it to fall centrally into the floors below.   This could explain why iron spherules were found at the site.  By the way the jet fuel would not produce heat high enough to create these iron spherules and thus far no one has been able to explain their presence at the site.  You can Google some of the above to gain a better understanding of how a building dampening system works as well as the Iron spherules found at the site.  I hope this helps, Cheers!


          • Kizzing2002

            I really enjoy reading your writings, you are OBVIOUSLY a very educated person, reading your posts is almost a turn on, I really enjoy having conversations with educated people; so…..post away. :)


          • LPhoenix98

            I can’t speak for FS, however the counter weight would have fallen WITH the anchors.  It is nearly impossible for the counter-balance to break free of it’s anchors.  Here is a picture of a counter weight in a similar structure In Taipei. The construction of the counter-weight or Dampener in the Taipei building is built for wind but mostly for seismic activity.  A catastrophic failure at some point would have the massive Dampener shift one way or another as it is intended to do.  At some point however that dampener would have shifted far enough to push outward on the skeletal frame work causing that wall to fall in direction with the dampener.  As we all learn in elementary school an object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an outside force.  Even the rigid steel in the center of the building would have been breached because of the high temperature of around 800degrees C.  So yes you are right you would not have seen the dampener fall unless it had been cut away (possibly by explosive or thermobaric pressure allowing it to fall centrally into the floors below.   This could explain why iron spherules were found at the site.  By the way the jet fuel would not produce heat high enough to create these iron spherules and thus far no one has been able to explain their presence at the site.  You can Google some of the above to gain a better understanding of how a building dampening system works as well as the Iron spherules found at the site.  I hope this helps, Cheers!


          • LPhoenix98

            I can’t speak for FS, however the counter weight would have fallen WITH the anchors.  It is nearly impossible for the counter-balance to break free of it’s anchors.  Here is a picture of a counter weight in a similar structure In Taipei. The construction of the counter-weight or Dampener in the Taipei building is built for wind but mostly for seismic activity.  A catastrophic failure at some point would have the massive Dampener shift one way or another as it is intended to do.  At some point however that dampener would have shifted far enough to push outward on the skeletal frame work causing that wall to fall in direction with the dampener.  As we all learn in elementary school an object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an outside force.  Even the rigid steel in the center of the building would have been breached because of the high temperature of around 800degrees C.  So yes you are right you would not have seen the dampener fall unless it had been cut away (possibly by explosive or thermobaric pressure allowing it to fall centrally into the floors below.   This could explain why iron spherules were found at the site.  By the way the jet fuel would not produce heat high enough to create these iron spherules and thus far no one has been able to explain their presence at the site.  You can Google some of the above to gain a better understanding of how a building dampening system works as well as the Iron spherules found at the site.  I hope this helps, Cheers!


          • me

            ive seen this programe where 5 ppl had theroys on 9/11 and a demo expert says the reason they came down perfectly was because of the heat crumbled the concreate from the top and the weight collapsed the lower parts


          • Bdogg1985

            i work with concreat and it dont just crumble from heat,your just a wana be know it all,fucktard


          • Deandaley43

            u work with concrete and u cant even spell it, ha ha u stupid fucker


          • Concerned

            Um, you really shouldn’t be criticizing anyone.  There are 8 spelling/grammatical mistakes in the one sentence you just typed.  Take your anger and complete stupidity elsewhere.  And please, everyone, find a dictionary or spell check or go back to third grade.  The literacy level on these comments is depressing.


          • EngineeringGeek69

            me, The biggest factor in the WTC towers is that the skeletal frame work, those spires we all saw in the horrible aftermath sticking straight up went all the was to the top of the building.  The building had a concrete core construction.  Any mechanical/structural engineer will tell you these are very strong construction types but in terms of torsion, which is taking the structure and twisting like wringing out a wet rag it is a trade-off.  Also flex is a big problem.  The structural steel skeleton of the buildings took a major hit particularly in the second explosion.  It hit the corner of the building virtually wiping out the structural steel and causing..?  Torsion.  We know that the design is solid it has been examined and re-examined and credit should really be given to Minoru Yamasaki for his design lasting so long in such a terrible circumstance.  But as far as the floors coming down flat on each other the evidence and facts just don’t support what actually happened.  The twisting of the structure and the loss of the outside structural skeleton put such enormous stress in the form of torsion on the inner concrete core that they began to buckle, crack and basically come apart.  The other thing is  when concrete is introduced to high heat it is hardened.  Like putting a pot in a kiln.  The bottom line is given all of the variables the towers should have lost a wall and not pancaked down. 


          • Arthurkaubrys@gmail.com

            I think all of this is fucked up if you ask me. Could that be real did anyone ask your selfse?


          • BS -911..BOMB HELP

            YA HELP..A 747 FULL OF JET FUEL..I UNDERSTND MOSTLY EVERONE ONLY HAS USED 92 OCTANE BUT OVER 1000 GALLONS OF JET FUEL IS LITTLE HOTTER..AFTER BURNUNG FOR HALF HOUR OF THE STRUCTURE, THE WEIGHT AND GRAVITY TAKE OVER…THE TOP FLOORS START TO FALL AFTER STRUCTURE GETS HOT ENOUGH THEN THE SHEER WEIGHT OF MULTIPLE FLOORS DO THE REST


          • Extra Weight

            So you’re saying that when the top floors collapse all of a sudden the other floors have more weight to carry??? That makes LOADS of sense. Because after all those floors never had to carry the weight of the ones above them before…


          • annoy

            Deserves Facepalm


          • EngineeringGeek69

            Okay here is the problem.  “Pancaking” floors on a building so large, tall, is extremely unlikely.  For the reasons I’ve laid out in previous posts.  Take and use a couple hundred tongue depressors and make a structure of about seventy floors.  You can even use Elmers glue to hold the depressors in place.  It must be a skeletal design, then take and add your floors, cross beams, stair wells, elevator shafts and put an equal amount of pressure on each floor.  Say about 40 to 50 grams.  Now at high velocity pierce the floor one third of the way up and squeeze out an e proportionate amount of fuel, any fuel will work it’s only wood.  Now in the top Thirty or so floors make a large swinging pendulum and solder or braze that to the internal frame work.  Turn a fan on full speed pointing directly at the construct ignite it and tell me what happens.  The floors can’t fall evenly because they have wind from a fan, uneven weight being applied to different sections of each floor and most importantly a great big pendulum that is going to rock with the prevailing motion.  This is a very simplified task of what I did for the last 4 and a half years and the data just doesn’t add up.  I can see the initial floors falling on themselves but at some point weight will shift and it will slide right off the side causing catastrophic failure of the of the other three sides.  My team went into this looking for how to make a better stronger self contained city and we still have decades to go.  Pick up a structural engineering book 101 and most of these things will already be pointed out.  I’m not bashing you or anyone else it just needs to be realized that the towers fell in a pre-concieved fashion minimizing collateral damage.  I can’t speculate how that was accomplished but all data my team has retrieved to date shows other-wise.  But the larger question I  have to ask is why were the data and videos confiscated from us without explanation other than building and codification.  Are you shitting me?  This data is VITAL to our work and OUR work is to make people safer.  Who wouldn’t want people safer?


          • WOW GUYS

            DROP A CARD 10 FEET ,THEN A PIECE OF CONCRETE OR STEEL…THE CARD MIGHT FLOAT AWAY..I BET THE STEEL AND CONCRETE FALLS STRAIT….U KNO THERE IS A THING CALLED SIENCE..IT WAS PROBABLY RETROFITTED TO B IMPLODED SO WEN IT STARTED TO COLAPSE IT CONTAINED IT SELF BETTER


          • BDOGG1985

            ya some of it would fall in the center but there should have been support beams and walls that would have fallen sideways they wouldn’t fall perfectly in the center like that. The only way i’ve seen buildings colaps like that is, when there are exsplosive charges properly placed.            your point sounds logical but no matter how hard u try  u cant always controle how a structure falls. YOU ARE A REAL FUCKING SMART GUY HUH, LEARN YOUR FUCKING FACTS ASSHOLE.


          • Ozymandias1951

            OMFG…  All of these experts!

            Here’s some expert information – for 40 years my father was one of the preeminent stress engineers in the country and my father-in-law was responsible for the external struts and stressing on the main WTC towers.  They found nothing at all suspicious about the way the towers collapsed.  I’m inclined to accept their verdicts over that of all these experts on the web whose training and experience came out of a Japanese comic book. 

            Oh, and having some practical experience of explosives, I think it highly unlikely that they rigged these things up for implosion either in advance of the attack or in the hour or so that elapsed between the attack and the collapses.  But feel free to believe your fantasies.   No doubt when your teeth start falling out in your dotage, you’ll still be sticking them under your pillow, hopin’ that the Tooth Fairy will come supplement your Social Security check…


          • Voice of Reason

            I applaud you good sir, finally some logic in this conversation. Wait what movie are we talking about again?


          • Ice_Wolf

            Your an idiot!!! your looking at this with a simple mind because your simple minded and the reason 9/11 happened and the things that are oddly unexplainable are just tooo complex for your SIMPLE mind to understand EVER. so stop trying to make sense of something you cant wrap your simple little mind around.


          • Kayla duehr

            shut up and fuck you, you fucking fucker


          • Navyman1968

            You all are idiots


          • Guest

            And I thought this thread was about a movie!


          • Jconk127

            totally agreed plus there was reports of explosions several floors down from where the plane actually hit.


          • Pme8907

            I’m just glad you made all these people look like bafoons. There’s not a doubt in my mind what you said is fact. Anyone who knows a lick about engineering or structures would know that something was not right with the way those building collapsed. 


          • wow thats actually a great point… leaves alot to think about


          • CATERRICCI69

            REALLY!  YOU ARE A STUPID ASS!


          • PutnTheKnowledgeOnYa

            your just another noob who wants everything to be a conspiracy. the upper levels’ outside support beams buckled when the fireproof spray was blow away from impact. they buckled outwards and the floors stacked on top of eachother when they fell. its not hard to see what happened. Not everything is a government conspiracy.


          • Fillitup79

            When a plane crashes  there is always debris always and two jets can not take down three towers also why would you hide any video of the pentagon being attacked ?  Only one reason. You dont want people to see it and why wouldn’t you want people to see something well that is  because you are hiding the truth.   if you take the 20 dollar bill and fold it into a airplane it shows the twin towers falling and on fire  yup its on our own currency  this is such an obvious inside job  i mean come on do you really need someone to tell you what a airplane crash looks like


          • Carretochris

             you got line from gears 3


          • Famous Artechi

            I build them for a living, and unfortunately a 747 hitting one is less damaging than a wrecking ball.  And yes we actually run test like this inorder to attempt to save as many lives as possible in the event of such “incidents”.  Sorry but 40 years of building them, I think I might know what I’m talking about.  So Donovan you are right to a great degree


          • Eugh. Dumbass. Comparing a house of cards to a skyscaper? Are you Beavis or Butthead? The steel was hot enough to bow like this ” /” Then, when hot enough and enough pressure was pushing down on that… it all snapped and fell inwards. Take my word for it, I’m a physicist. 


          • Daz

            agree totally. don’t listen to the narrow minded! Governments are not saints, they do what is in their own interests and hide whatever is dubious or potentially iincriminating!


          • Micah J Sctt

            That’s retarded!! No body had to “push a button”!! Terrorists crashed into the wtc with planes there was no bombing by America!! There’s footage you idiot. And the government would never kill a bunch of citizens on purpose to “save many” ur frickin stupid.


          • Joemama

            You must be a physicist


        • Freedoms_glory

          and i bet your the kind of person that believe the government has never done anything bad or shady right im not siding with the ppl that believe that stuff but i dont condone it eather those questions need to be asked just because a question seems so appalling doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be asked if you trust ur government like i get the feel like you do (witch i could be wrong) its a organization just like any other made up of ppl that have money and power… look at Enron and what happened ppl that had lives jobs that put 20+ years in that company and then nothing even the government was caught off gard so before you tell someone not to ask the question ask ur self is it because ur afraid of it possibly being the truth… we would not be where we are today with out ppl that asked questions ppl thought that science was magic and devils work but ppl that pushed on and keeped asking no matter what the truth may hold


          • Schmitty8

            why would the goverment kill 3000 of its own citizens you people are unbelivable


          • Macjackson

            to go to war and get saddam.. u see when bush sr. was president and desert storm was going on .. saddam put a bounty on george bush sr  head.  and with his baby boy now president  he could pull it off and even the score if you will.


          • Aurus

            I don’t see why it’s impossible. In 2003 I learned that CIA was involved in overthrowing the government of my country in 1989. Now my country is in chaos thanks to American politics. So, if I had the resources and wanted to, I too would find a way to starve your USA 300 million population and wouldn’t care if 1 million die as a result of that. More power and gain for me. See, politics and politicians are the gods of rulership of the nations.


          • happylifer

            Aurus…are you sure your not uranus.  Your people suffered by the politics/people in 1989 doesn’t mean that the world should further punish other innocent people who had absolutely nothing to do with that horrible intervention.  Don’t be stupid too..  


          • KYFHO69

            1989?  Let me guess…Panama?  If so, you can’t tell me you are not better off now today than you were then (unless you are a cokehead).


          • Kayla duehr

            YES I AM HAVE BEEN BORN IN AMERICAN BUT IT CAN FUCKING DIE!!!!!!


          • Jrodriguez8600

            because the more people that die in the US them more money the goverment recieves…


          • Jrodriguez8600

            because the more people that die in the US them more money the goverment recieves…


          • Misanthrope

            Don’t you know that the majority of the money the US Government gets from it citizens is from income tax? Now how exactly does having a whole building of people die suddenly increase its revenue. Also there is cleaning up the damages.


          • Motionofsound

            because there is plenty more where that came from.


          • Fishmandoo

            To create an enemy, war puts fear into peoples minds therefore providing a need for faith in that present government. War also creates money! At least open your mind enough to understand that when an aircraft crashes into a building like the Pentagon, there would surely be some wreckage from the plane. There was nothing, a bit sus, dont you think!


          • Jon4812

             easy ! ticket to go into middle east and build a pipeline to transport oil that the bush family and many other rich powerful familys have shares in from iran eventually , iraq  afghanistan through turkey into the caspian sea ready to be brought to the west easy


          • Weapon88

            try looking up the meaning of the FALSE FLAG


          • justsaying

            ever hear about Hitler, he killed a lot of jews.  how about sadam he tryed to do the same thing


          • justsaying

            why did sadam killed over 100000 of his own people.


          • Phoenix98

            You have to ask yourself who would benefit most.  The Israeli’s certainly did.  They called Carte Blanche and began cleaning out house of Palestinians.  Missile attacks quadrupled.  Also what of the pictures recovered that showed on four surrounding buildings four confirmed Mossad operatives.  It got us in Afghanistan REAL quick and who profited from that?  Then Iraq.  Who REALLY profited from that.  Sure as hell not the guys that had boots on the ground.  The either got dead, PTSD, or a good ole’ fuck you from Uncle Sam.  Just because something doesn’t seem plausible does not make it impossible.


          • rejco

            Because the people running it are corrupt & evil to the core…


          • Guest

            To sell cans of coke for $10.00 usd. Some people got real rich really fast


          • Bdogg1985

            shut the fuck up, whut u said doesnt make any fucking sense and has nothing to do with the conversation everyone else is having. fag ass


          • Brit_StructEngineer

            Makes real sense to me.


          • Brit_EconEngineer

            WTF? Where the hell do you live that has coke for 10 duckets?


          • Guest

            for the greater good, do you really think the rich Rotschild, Jp morgan. and other elites care about 3000 civilians? ever heard of the NWO ?.


          • Patriot

            You Communist pig.


          • Guest

            for the greater good, do you really think the rich Rotschild, Jp morgan. and other elites care about 3000 civilians? ever heard of the NWO ?.


          • Guest

            for the greater good, do you really think the rich Rotschild, Jp morgan. and other elites care about 3000 civilians? ever heard of the NWO ?.


          • BDOGG1985

            THEN WHY DO THEY SEND US TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO GET KILLED,INSTEAD OF JUST BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY DONT RILLY CARE ABOUT US, THEY CARE MORE ABOUT MONEY AND POWER.U ACT LIKE IT WOULD HURT THEM TO KILL 3000 PEOPLE, MABY TO THEM ITS 3000 PEOPLE THEY DONT HAVE TO PAY ANYMORE, CAN WE SAY “BUDGET CUT”


          • truth finder

            our goverment has killed it own people, if you ask the questions with the right wording it can and will get you killed. it all comes down to money and power..
            MONEY AND POWER


          • Ignaciotamayo52

            y not dumass we already have a fucked up goverment


          • Jon4812

            all records being investigated by fbi were in building 7 when it went down it took with nearly all recorded testaments and corruption charge files debtors and tangeable asset records with it leaving a $365 million unacounted for with no other records known to the public and no other corruption charge files to further the investagation kinda dodgy dont you think ? and thats just one of the lost paper stories
             


        • Freedoms_glory

          and i bet your the kind of person that believe the government has never done anything bad or shady right im not siding with the ppl that believe that stuff but i dont condone it eather those questions need to be asked just because a question seems so appalling doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be asked if you trust ur government like i get the feel like you do (witch i could be wrong) its a organization just like any other made up of ppl that have money and power… look at Enron and what happened ppl that had lives jobs that put 20+ years in that company and then nothing even the government was caught off gard so before you tell someone not to ask the question ask ur self is it because ur afraid of it possibly being the truth… we would not be where we are today with out ppl that asked questions ppl thought that science was magic and devils work but ppl that pushed on and keeped asking no matter what the truth may hold


        • Gilbertrodrigian

          Stupid ass it was terrost u conspirerecy believing fucktard


        • Rozzie-xx

          its on about apollo 18 not 9/11 think your chatting on bout wrong thing ………:/


        • Giggity

          Man it was Gorge Bush for christ sakes, that man couldn’t make a grilled cheese without fucking it up somehow. There is life here, who’s to say there isn’t life somewhere else, i garentee there is life other than here. Dig your head out of your ass and hop off the bandwagon of scared little pussy’s and open your mind. 


          • DumbKids

            I love reading you kids rage, your parents poorly spoonfed you unfortunately. If you want to type something bring facts, have you even looked at what you typed? “Dig your head out of your ass and hop off the bandwagon of scare little pussy’s and open your mind” Other than the fact you have no idea how to type, all you’re doing is bitching about nothing. Go watch some more spongebob while your dad beats your mom in the background.


          • Bdogg1985

            u aren’t hard or very smart by the looks of it,and by the way what the fuck does spongebob have to do with any of this,u probly suck dick for your day-job with a mouth like that,so shut the fuck up fuck face.


          • fluffy26

            who ever mentioned spongbob is because they were callin yins fuckin kids henc kids watch spongbob wow all you people are fucked up in the head ya im an american and i dont even like living here our goverment sux but theres no perfect place on this earth to live every were you go from the us to austraila every bidys countrys fucked in the ass one way or another it dosnt make any one more perfect that another you people serioulsy all need to get a real life and quit letting shit bother you live your life and be happy you never know when you time is up in this world


          • You

            Where every country you’re from, I’m not sure they speak English or at least type it. Seriously I had to keep rereading what you wrote


        • peter nowak

          then where is the proof that a plane hit the pentagon ?? they only released pictures of a explosion we are talking about a highly secured building probably has the most cameras in the world this building !!! why not release slow motion footage of a plane hitting it ?? have you ever asked yourself that !??? to shut up all these people who think the goverment did it how about proving that they didnt do it??


          • Bdogg1985

            you talk like u know for a fact they didnt have anything to do with it,but when it comes down to it you dont know shit.


        • Bee Ak45

          Both them questions and statement are just so stupid, 
          1, had that kind of power to hide you say!2, do a cleaner job! 3,walk in and take the papers, You do know  these are the people that go to war for land and oil for money and power,
          they send us to other lands by air and by sea to kill and be killed for £6 an hour just for their power
          for hundreds of years this has been going on with millions of people dead and more money in their pockets I wanted to end here but I’m going to rant on some more. coz every word in your sentences annoy me!
          If I was a bit more learned I would have some better words than you are retarded for asking these Questions I’m not saying this and that has been done, but for you to come out and say it is not possible that it could  be done and then have,,,, Anyway…. NEXT!!!…. after your pointless words
          like you have some great look on life and know what others are doing and thinking and know what they are hiding, Do you know what I will be doing in the next year, hmmm no you don’t coz I didn’t tell you, Just like I don’t know what the other 99% of the world is doing at any time
          Anything can be hidden but many things can be found
          everybody lies some little ones some big ones you tell them I tell them your kids will tell them their kids will tell the kids before them will tell them…I have a massive member! see looks its easy
          Anyway my point is these People have  the power to do what ever they want but I don’t think they are stupid
          Like they would just walk in and say look I have the power I’m going to take this and there is nothing you can do about it! there is still law no one is above that, Is that not why robbers wear a mask to not be recognised
          I don’t have any power and if I had it Im not sure what I would do to keep it, do you know what you would do if you knew you was going to lose it?, maybe not.. but im sure you are thinking oh I wouldn’t do anything…but Im sure you know what others have done “Governments” wars killing raping these are the things we have done to keep that power for many years Or was it just the person who was doing the killing and raping alot of us are SICK! in the head and I’m sure there is alot of sick people running the world
          And narrow minded People like you are not helping it! or you just ignorant to how the world is
          by the way I have no clue to what you are talking about in this post


          • Name Racoon

            you must read a book by david icke the biggest secret n another book called the green book by muammar al qaddafi…u can read them both on the net or u can buy them!cheers


          • Brit_StructEngineer

            Don’t ever read anything by David Icke. After having a stellar career as athlete and sports presenter, the poor sod hada nervous breakdown and believed we’re all descended from turquiose shell-suit-wearing reptiles.  ..then he found God was one too.


          • Ellomoto135

            You do realize who qaddafi is? He was libya’s dictator for 40 years.


        • JUSTICE

              I have no problem with you American people,but i have a problem with your government.Because they always try to do whats best for their country(not people) but very bad for any others. ”God bless America” right!!!But what about the others???
              If you have a little will to find the truth,just watch the documentaries ZEITGEIST and ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM.There it explains the dirty works of American government(lobbies,groups like İlluminate etc..)
             9/11,Vietnam war,Afghanistan,Iraq,Gulf War et… are all the job of USA.And the only purpose for those wars,invasions were MONEY.You American people can buy oil cheaper than anyone because of the bloods spilled in Middle East.


          • happer than u

            Sounds like your jealous. 


          • Lacyfontenot

            Sounds like your mother is jealous of your grandma in bed


          • justsaying

            you forgot about ww2, and how about ww1, when we were trying to stop the genoside of all people


          • Iansean507

            Dude i agree w/ everything… But y did every1 shift from Apollo18 to 911?


          • Tylerjgreene

            I love how all of you people sit here in your overly scrutinous chairs (covered in what i assume to be potato chip grease and your own dried crusty semen) and tell others not to listen to wht the government tells you and not to believe stupid shit that you see in a movie, yet here you are trying to sell a fucking documentary to us like its full of such “supposed” truths. You’re a liar and a hipocrit. Practice what you preach, that goes for all of you. this is not a who has a bigger brain contest ok. Fuck all your “facts” and “inside information” that you are so very clearly regurgitating from someone elses words. Form your own opinions and ideas and come up with something that 50 million people havent already said. For instance the towers imploding…How many disasters natural or otherwise have plagued this planet for centuries that we were unable to explain just how exactly it happened. they were fucking buildings that fell.with all of the counterweight and balances they made in those towers do you really think it is completely impossible for it to just implode with balls of fire smoldering the buildings from the inside to help it deteriorate in a straight falling momentum or are you people really ignorant enouigh to think those towers would have fallen like astanding pencil?  Stop spouting off at the mouth with theses ridiculous claims and just let shit be! And to all the patriotic shit talkers….I am an extremely proud white American. I am not byist nor am I discriminative, but to all of you fucking redneck pieces of shit shut the fuck up please. You are making all of us look like a bunch of inbreed retards. And to all the others that may live in other counrties and/or province, if you hate us so much why can you never stop talking about us or to us? Also if we are the shityy country you allseem to think we are, hoiw come all of your people are in our country while you call united states a shithole? JEALOUSY it’s that damn simple. you don’t have the means neccesary for you to make it here so you act like you’re better than the ones that can. I’m done with this post I’m working myself up and rambling, I started off gently pressing my keypad, I have slowly  progressed throughout this post and am now pounding the keys into the computer. Thank you all for being self prophecising morons.


          • Tylerjgreene

            I love how all of you people sit here in your overly scrutinous chairs (covered in what i assume to be potato chip grease and your own dried crusty semen) and tell others not to listen to wht the government tells you and not to believe stupid shit that you see in a movie, yet here you are trying to sell a fucking documentary to us like its full of such “supposed” truths. You’re a liar and a hipocrit. Practice what you preach, that goes for all of you. this is not a who has a bigger brain contest ok. Fuck all your “facts” and “inside information” that you are so very clearly regurgitating from someone elses words. Form your own opinions and ideas and come up with something that 50 million people havent already said. For instance the towers imploding…How many disasters natural or otherwise have plagued this planet for centuries that we were unable to explain just how exactly it happened. they were fucking buildings that fell.with all of the counterweight and balances they made in those towers do you really think it is completely impossible for it to just implode with balls of fire smoldering the buildings from the inside to help it deteriorate in a straight falling momentum or are you people really ignorant enouigh to think those towers would have fallen like astanding pencil?  Stop spouting off at the mouth with theses ridiculous claims and just let shit be! And to all the patriotic shit talkers….I am an extremely proud white American. I am not byist nor am I discriminative, but to all of you fucking redneck pieces of shit shut the fuck up please. You are making all of us look like a bunch of inbreed retards. And to all the others that may live in other counrties and/or province, if you hate us so much why can you never stop talking about us or to us? Also if we are the shityy country you allseem to think we are, hoiw come all of your people are in our country while you call united states a shithole? JEALOUSY it’s that damn simple. you don’t have the means neccesary for you to make it here so you act like you’re better than the ones that can. I’m done with this post I’m working myself up and rambling, I started off gently pressing my keypad, I have slowly  progressed throughout this post and am now pounding the keys into the computer. Thank you all for being self prophecising morons.


        • hmmm

          911= inside job . Thermite found ?? Which in my opinion, is treasonous.


        • gatorbacker

          It’s people like you who never try to find out the  real truth to begin with. . Did you ever realize that the might not want you or i to know the truth !


        • Alecstrauss

          and you prefer believing those who claim Obama was not born in America?!?!?!?Where is that proof? When gullible people mock gullability of others, makes me wonder. Obama has shown proof…those who try to disproove him don’t.


          • Corderozoe

            the nigger has done nothing good for this country


          • Brit_StructEngineer

            Like that white fuckwit Bush jr did?


          • Corderozoe

            his hole fuckin campain was all bout change in the white house meaning it was time for a nigger to be in office nothing bout what he wanted to do for the american people he fucked alot of people out of there insurances and the insurances people have cause of that mother fucker suck and the only reason why now all of a sudden just bout all of our troops are out and back home is cause its the end of his term he wants to be realected ya what happen to him bringin them home 4 years ago noooo why would he do that for i hope that nigger burns and any one who voted for him should also burn


          • PS

            Look online for the birth certificate.  His mother, I believe, was 16 at the time of his birth.  His father is from another country (Africa I believe) and his mother was living there at the time of his birth.  To be an American citizen, a mother has to be in the United States for a period of 6 months prior to giving birth.  Obama’s mother was not.  Hence, he is not an American citizen.  How he got passed that, I don’t know.  He shouldn’t have even been able to serve as a Senator.


          • Ellomoto135

            Then how come mexicans born here are legal?


        • Rapidjimmy1

          you guys are retarded the government was based on conspiracy from george washington to george bush(masons)…secret societies, secret missions, secret everything…they let you know only what they want you to know, maybe they want the people to know they were responsible for 9/11, just to show how powerful they are…people like us will never no the truth, if we did we would probably be killed in some weird death…this movie was made by the gov., they are brain washing us with things like movies, video games, even t.v…so we dont focus on the really truths out there…n you say the gov. did a sloppy job with 9/11? They could of made it look cleaner?…trust me they want everyone in the world to think like you,(with half a brain)….face it we as a people R F*cked…..


          • Matthewmann84

            your right we as a people are fucked unless we as a people do something about it . are rights and freedoms are taken away from us a little every day and thats what many have died for so it should’nt go unnoticed. 


          • Brit_StructEngineer

            The era of the West ruling the world, and the US policing that world are coming to an end.  Get used to it.  More than any other western power, the US can’t afford to get involved in another conflict.  You’re broke.


          • Jwblake35

            The government have been doing things like this for years, using afro-american as guinea pigs…. by giving sexually transmitted diseases to them to see the effect untreated!!!!! NOW THAT’S SOME TRUTH
            i would not put any thing pass them


          • LPhoenix98

            You’re absolutely right.  They fed them and clothed them and studied them all the way through postmortem.  Syphilis and neurotic syphilis is one of the most horrendous diseases of our time.  The really bad part is they had found a cure and and didn’t use it.  Penicillin.  This by the way was a DOD sponsored experiment to see if it could be weaponized.


        • joe

          our gov can do whatever they want whenever they want. they have gotten to big to much power if i could id take it away from them and give it back to the people. but what can one man do


        • Mkorn83

          you a fucking shovenistic spoon fed fucking moron and deserve to be shot in the face for being such a dumbass fucking cunt!!!


        • Lola12

          If Obama was born in Hawaii so he is clearly AMERICAN ! can’t believe you still discuss about this guys !! well maybe because Hawaii is out of your sight so you must thing is not an American state !! yeap Obama is American !


        • me

          it wasnt about papers…it was to cause mass fear about terrorism…then they slowly have been taking our rights away ever since…did you know they have determined the United States a battlefield


        • Lazlopowow

          Dude your stupid. You are on a need to know basis. And you don’t need to know anything. Do the research and find the relationship between (project blue book, and Kennedy’s assassination). To think the government can’t or doesn’t hide or create massive conspiracy theories is like saying (Black Wallstreet) never existed. Again, do your research. All our government has ever done was hide and lie. Bottom line is, this country is ran not by the president. But buy the very wealthy 1% of people that own more than 90% of the worlds wealth. And they protect each others interest. Do the research, and form your own opinion on facts. Over half of us, dont know the half. And I’m not saying I do. But I feel for those who draw their opinions off of opinions. It’s time to wake up world!!!


        • Drdrums02

          the world trade center tower one and tower 2 and building 7 were the first building in history EVER to collapse form a structure fire . and building seven wasnt even hit by anything or on fire dumbfuck  . and there were numerous witnesses who said they heard huge explosions before the collapse and y did building 2 collapse first if it got hit second . and there is no proof that the pentagon even got hit by a plane . if the government didnt do it y did they lie about what happen . your a fucking idiot donovan


        • captainplanet

          ya it was planned also the plane that (never) hit the pentagon , they put a huge insurance claim on weeks before and there was also no plane wreckage at the pentagon. its not treasonous to say that we planned this, we just tryin to get ourselves out of the debt whole. cuz since then we have paid plenty ppl off.


        • Savage261

          Treasonous eh?  Sheep.  Moron.  bury your head in the sand like a good little slave American.  You are a traitor for believing what you are told without asking questions.  It was also treasonous in Germany to question the real origin of the Reich-stag fire.  Which, as is since proven fact, was set by the Nazi’s and blamed on Poland.  An excuse to invade.  Sound familiar dumb ass?


        • Dwayne1523

          Donavan…you’re so trained by the media it’s obvious and pathetic. I’ll bet you like to listen to yourself talk huh? I know your type. You think your smart, cool, and funny. What I think’s funny is no one is listening to your dumb ass…only laughing because you’re wrapped up in the very people’s bs who could give a f&%k less about you.


        • Obama was born in Hawaii, and to get Americans into the mind set for WW2 they allowed pearl harbor to happen when they found out about the Japanese fleet heading there… instead of stopping them when they could they allowed it to happen to say to the american people “look what they did, they killed innocent people now get angry and do something about it” same thing they did in 911… and it worked we were mad and we did something about it. i hate to say it but its a good strategy for getting things done… more or less  


        • They did a clean enough job to make you believe they didn’t do it.


        • Elbaba5

          ya thats what the law says. but how goverment officals obey the law. there t many back door deals done everyday.


        • Sabrinainfinie

          Your an idiot.


        • Fillitup79

          the twin towers was a inside job and your all the fools


        • YOU ARE DUMB!

          what you just said was RETAREDED do you even hear what you are saying? or do you just speak words cuz you think you have information that others dont,get a life


        • Connorw1976

          i was in the world trade center the govermenT DID NOT BLOW UP WORLD TRADE CENTER


          • Little Crow

             I’m very sorry you were there to witness that horrible day.  I sincerely hope you didn’t lose any friends or loved ones.  Is there anything you can remember to share with the discussion group that would lead you to believe it was entirely the jets that brought down the building?  Also, where in the building were you positioned?  How long were you in the building?  Were you at anytime trapped and unable to communicate with anyone?  I don’t mean to sound callous it’s just I have only spoken with three other survivors and they were able to be immediately evacuated so they couldn’t give much detail.  I think they were mostly in shock, accounts were so different and all but one stayed at the perimeter until the buildings fell.  He’s now been diagnosed with terminal cancer from the carcinogens that were released.  Did you stay around the perimeter?  Can you describe the scene and what was happening there?  I lost a good friend on the 130th floor (I believe that’s the floor he was on but not sure) and I am still trying to make sense of it all.  Anything you can provide would be greatly appreciated.  I am very glad you survived.


        • Redfaction

          That Obama is a ghost alien and we need to get T.A.P.S. to set up cameras in the white house to prove it.


        • Sinister4554

          Americas economy or nation on a whole functions better in times of war. Us pilots flew the 9/11 flights and they were trained to do so. It was all an act to make Americans think we had another attack on Home soil. All an idea of an American come on u aren’t that stupid are u????


        • Lol Come on man the Patriot Act was in the works in 1998 but they had no logical explanation to pass it. So along came a idea to create a huge sense of insecurity and the much needed nationalism in a country that was increasingly indifferent to Foreign Affairs. Killing a few thousand people doesn’t end America it strengthens it, no terrorist would think this would be their ultimate attack. Now with are Iran situation I doubt we would ever be attacked with a Nuke from them, seeing as if 9/11 truly was a terrorist attack and in a time of relative stability the terrorist were still reduced to using planes. Now with heightened security I seriously doubt a nuclear attack on the US without government aid. And the new missile defense system has a 100% success rate. 


        • truth

          explain to me this then why no airplane had hit building seven yet it fell perfectly at free fall speed and why was it when seperate tests were done on the soil why did they come up finding liquid thermite resadue in every sample and well for the fact this is the first recorded insadent where skyscrapers collapsed from structual fires or the fact that the gas from the plains couldnt create enough heat to melt the support beams or for the fact explosions were seen going off before the airplanes even hit the biuldings


        • Brandi

          Are you kidding me. The trade centers was an inside job from our own government. If you don’t know this then wow. You really need to wake up and stop being a sheep!!


        • Daravenrk@gmail.com

          If declension is treasonous it is time to load out guns and shoot the generals!!!


        • Myballs

          you are a moron


        • 28kita

          You stupid if u think the government will tell us anything do u believe that *Area 51 is real if so then u should believe that the government
          Will lie to us…why panic us with stuff like that so yes they will keep quiet


        • Gary

          George Bush is behind the world trade center coming down in order to have a good enough reason to attack Iraq and the rest of the middle east for their oil, America is running out of oil and when it does it come come to a stand still and revert back to the dark ages. This is why the towers came down. As for bin laden where is he really? They say they gave him burial at sea lmao…no way. At the end of the day bin laden was a middle eastern business man in partnership with Bush to make cash. I saw the footage of bin ladens family being ushered onto a plane on american soil WHY??? surely they would have been used to capture bin laden but no they were sent back to afghanistan lol


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


        • drewdigital

          You’re right to shame MnMcutie for believing the film/footage was real, however you’re completely idiotic for not seeing the validity to the claims that the trade centers were an inside job… There are countless hours of info (in various forms of media), out there that is all readily available to the public & can easily prove that the 911 commission’s “report” & the official “story” the public was fed out of a sippy cup designed to service the weak & feebile minded, is utter BS.. If you know anything about math you’ll realize that 2+2 will never equal 27, the same can be said when you look at the facts & consider the highest possible temperature reached when jet fuel burns & the temp needed to turn steel into molten metal… This is just one single gaping whole in findings that were released! Off the top of my head I know of about 30 other “statements” (or “LIES” as they’re more commonly known by), which were included in that report, that can be easily disproved by your HS science teacher or anyone w-a decent background in either chemistry or physics…
          Much like 2+2 ALWAYS = 4, There are laws of gravity&etc that simply can not be refuted or challenged! If you throw an apple in the air, it will always come back down&it will fall at the same/constant speed!! If a building falls, it will do the same, Unless it has help, it will NEVER gain speed on it’s way down just like an apple wouldn’t…
          Also how could anyone ever believe a plane flew into the Pentagon!? Or the fact that it magically disappeared as well!
          &Why has ZERO footage of the incident ever been released even though there were some 20 cameras that filmed the entire event?
          &Lastly how about the plane that went down in the forest that also mysteriously vaporized into thin air but the one thing that was found was the supposed hijackers passport!? Come-on!!
          Let’s not even mention the fact the most of the “highjackers” have been proven to be alive & well living abroad & were nowhere near the US or the trade-center that day…
          Moral of the story is just think before you speak & don’t always blindly believe the propaganda you’ve been fed from the tiny hole in that sippy-cup!
          #JustSAyin


      • Robert

        most of the footage was fake but some of it was he real footage. but anytime it showed the footage of the actors it was fake but sometimes you could tell how much of it was real.


        • Smash

          how exactly could you tell how much of it was real? I mean maybe if you work for NASA and generally watch 70’s space footage sure you might know but I highly doubt that is the case. Also film crews go through alot of trouble to make sure things look real…so please tell me exactly HOW you could tell some of it was real?


        • PS

          The only image that was real was the view of the moon taken by other astronauts from their ships.  Everything else is faked.  Hello?  Every hear of Hollywood and special FX?!


      • Brandon

        LOL so true


      • Brotherbyfate

        For your info dumb ass it says at the beginning of the movie that real NASA footage was used in parts of the movie and that its based off a true story. And in paranormal activity it clearly states that the movie is fictional. Huge difference dumb ass


      • Mtoofar

        No shit he said “seemed like”. He was just complimenting the movie. No need to be an asshole. Bro.


        • Bdogg1985

          he said “if you believe the apalo 18 shit is real then u probly believe in paranormal activity” so he clearly didn’t say “seemed like” in any part of his comment.Bro. so shut the fuck up u stupid dumbass.


      • Alex n.

        ur the stupid wake bro u think arena 51 is not real … lmao


      • pro66

        fucking dumb , if u think the extraterest dont exist you are the stupid.


      • Ronny

         supernatural stuff is definitely really, hard to believe that lunar stone on the moon but who nose there are many thing in our own ocean we are not aware of yet. 


      • Ally

        Are you positive that situations similar to this are not true or couldn’t possibly happen? You are arrogant if you believe that we humans are the only life that could exist in our galaxy, let alone the universe. Our government is set on hiding what’s really out there from the rest of us. They rely on people like you to doubt that stuff like this could happen. Without the opinion of doubt they would have no control.

        The government plays things off so much it’s ridiculous. Just recently, with the metal balls falling from space, the Internet held that information available to the public for about a day before suddenly it was wiped clean from the eyes of everyone. The government tried to play it off as metal falling off from one of the space stations. Luckily we have people who are smarter than to believe the lies of the government.


        • ally, i would love to start bull sessions with you, discussing things like this.  especially since i picked up intelligence, and no directed insults.  questioning but not forceful.  

          i know there is much we are not made aware of.  i remember when i was a teenager looking at the moon and just having the feeling that on the rear side of the moon there was something we were not supposed to know about.  but it really does make you wonder why after so much success in the space program, three planned missions were officially cancelled and we have not returned to Luna nor made any real plans to do so.  i am going to do some research but i don’t believe any other country has returned either, save for probes doing surveying missions for water and minerals.


      • Adriannereed

        It is real that just wasn’t the real footage, don’t be so naive open your eyes to the crazy shit that goes on in this world


      • William Moore11

        its real


      • Gj

        You must believe our government is squeeky clean.  Burst the bubble you live in and view the real world.


      • Jjabrams

        Fuck you Trevor


      • joe

        you can all think what u want but the real question remains why havnt we been back up there in years? and our gov nos whats going on and no one can tell me they havnt recognized the fact of abductions and sightings they know wat is going on. and soon it will become apart of all our lives im only 17 and i promise u that i will see it in my life time
         


      • Bluwater13

        seriously i mean i could buy into like maybe “they couldn’t show real footage so they had to make there own” but that shit was fake it was a good movie but maybe they shouldn’t of made the rocks like crabs and it would be more interesting. but you never know this could’a happened. they could’ve gotten a disease thats nasa knew about from apollo 17’s evidence so they sent them astronaughts from apollo 18 down there knowing there was no return for them and that they were using them like they said in the movie as “guinea pigs” just to collect extertersrial evidence with cameras and  beacons to try to comunnicate with them. and yeah paranormal activity was pretty gay haha


      • Daniel Daniel_21

        how do u kno its not real? do u work in NASA i dont think so cuz ur 2 retarded!!


      • jadeswagger

        i totaly agree with you.its soo not real only apollo 13 was real … but at the end when they show the people that were in the movie and die was real when they said there body was not recovered…… :) :p


      • Kayla duehr

        Um bitch that shit is real let me fucking tell you right now i fucking know that shit fucking real demons ghost are fucking real dumb ass


      • Penisbreath

        i do and i think ur fake too


      • Philip

        He doesnt need to be stupid! You probably belives that we are alone in the hole univers.


      • Mordecaizz

        Lol that’s true lol xI


      • guest

        i found the website go to lunartruth.com so HA!


      • cerial

        i bet people like u is the type to hide the truth as well…. get over urself if u think we are the only living things.. if there wasnt any other living things then y is it we’re so much different from the sea creatures… they breath water we breath air.. y cant it be any much different??? let me guess fags like urself try to deny deny deny it


      • Toad

        Any smart person knows that the possibilities of the Universe are as infinite as it is.


      • Toad

        Besides, this is no less credible than saying we killed Osama Bin Laden and then tossed his body over board!


      • Connorw1976

        what the fuck are thinking it is real i have seen the real footage i am a real fucking person


      • Chuck 9

        If you think that we’re alone in this vast universe…..then you’re the one that’s stupid Trevor ! No disrespect intented but I didn’t believe that anyone could be as limited as you are and you have the nerve to be using the INTERNET ! 30 years ago this type of media was the unthinkable. Think outside the box Trevor you might be able to use your picking skills for other than making yourself sound STUPID !


      • Chuck 9

        If you think that we’re alone in this vast universe…..then you’re the one that’s stupid Trevor ! No disrespect intented but I didn’t believe that anyone could be as limited as you are and you have the nerve to be using the INTERNET ! 30 years ago this type of media was the unthinkable. Think outside the box Trevor you might be able to use your picking skills for other than making yourself sound STUPID !


      • Pablodmzs

        Oh my god, you live in a pretty small small small small tinny world up there in your headhuh? Mega lol 


      • camhaz yorkesykes

        it is fucking real


      • Atg1

        people never talked about this mission…….. this might be the reason why


    • Haus 5

      By the way both actors on the ground I’ve seen in other movies, as well as the one in the orbiter. I can’t see them dying in the 70s and still doing movies in the 2000s. Lol people believe anything….


      • Matthewq109

        What other movies are they in?


      • Matthewq109

        What other movies are they in?


      • Robert

        ugh the movie wasnt real!!!! but the movie was BASED off of the footage it wasnt made from the footage.


        • Schmitty8

          based off what footage it was fake


          • Jrodriguez8600

            the footage that leaked… and evidence of alot of things.. what a coincidence all three astronauts called for some training at the same time and they all ended up dead with no body evidence??? the rocks given away and ended up missing or stolen? why there are no more moon expeditions…the Gov gives a shit about us so why would they let us know anything that can go wrong…


        • Schmitty8

          based off what footage it was fake


      • Atkinsoncj89

        fuckin retard the actors r acters not the real people the names r real but the faces arnt


      • Jrodriguez8600

        its BASED not an original recording… Obviously they will make the actors look like the original ones… plus if you look at the original recording the one of the guys that was on the moon and the guy floating in space look nothing like the original ones… I dont say i believe this but it does make you think and wonder.. isnt it wierd all three astronauts called for some kind of training and all die with no body evidence? and why is it that there hasnt been another expedition to the moon? many of those small things make you think… why did all those moon rocks collected were given away to other countries and they so happen to be stolen or missing and never found?? i know spider/crab rock aliens sounds dumb but its a big universe… Just like humans and a bunch of amazing wierd creatures formed on earth there can be amazing creaturtes out there…


        • Mosese44

          Lmao do u know how much it costs to go to the moon? It’s in the billions that’s 1 of the reasons we haven’t been also we have been there manytimes no need to keep going plus it’s the moon it can’t sistain life other the germs and bactiria


    • Badxmpl

      This is hilarious! There are no spiders on the moon! The Spiders are from Mars. Just ask David Bowie.


    • Jr

      real like District 9…….


    • L.D.

      If the crash was in lunar and no else has gone to the moon how did they get the footage.  In the film all the cameras were busted so where did the footage come from?  It it was in luner orbit that orbit would have decayed by now and all the junk would have crashed back into the moon.  No comm link, no video. 


      • Lilpoptart

        They got the footage because they were watching it from earth. it was being transmitted and probably recorded. It then was leaked out and put on lunartruth


        • Anonymous

          Come on. Have you watched the film??? a lot of it was filmed with the hand held camera outside the lunar module. They were on the reverse side of the moon some of the time and at the end he was in a russian craft. How would he of sent the film taken at the end while in the russian one??? or are you going to say that although he couldn’t speak russian he could read it to plug it in and send while he was being attacked by the rock alians. Remember all the camera on the russian craft had been smashed so had to come from hand held one……. who was holding it????? ITS A MOVIE…….


      • Jrodriguez8600

        i think that if they can build a space ship they can transmit video to earth.. That helps in case something goes wrong and the astronauts cant return home..


        • Mosese44

          Yeah but if the signal it’s jammed it’s way to easy for Interference with signals think about it what happens when u go in a tunnel on ur cell phone? U get cut off


    • Darth Hulk

      there’s a little white dot on the bottom right side of the sreen thats how u log on to Lunartruth.com shit


    • Apollo18

      if you all click on the bottom right hand side of lunartruth.com it takes you to a different website. The white dot, click on it.


    • hapy

      Nasa is behind the movie to get funding and future astronauts…and backup


    • CHARGER62

      I BET YOUR A FUCKING RETARD


    • Daves1130

      Blair Witch Project all over again but it takes place in space with moon rocks that turn into spiders.
      The movie sucks “Big Time.”


    • 2kool

      how do u knw if its real or not u ever work for NASA??? Its possible dat it cld be have way if not all the truth dumb ass read a book or something.


    • read the information in the end of film “the persons and events in this motion film are fictitious” also you can see the list of actors))  


      • Cgozberk811

        As I posted before….there are many things in our universe that are unexplained and unknown. Area 51 is a true place with many weird things in it and done in it. There are many things that our US Goverment does not tell us “common folk”, nor should they….for many reasons….but three man are dead and missing, I wouldn’t put it past ANY Goverment to hide any information it gathers….for anywhere! Hell, I bet this post and site is being looked at now.,.


        • Mosese44

          Lmao yeah area 51 is a real place they tested new weapons and air vehicles there do sone actual research instead of just going with movie info yes I know the universe is big and it’s retarded to think that we r the only planet with life I believe there is life out there but not in the moon know way in hella it can hold life read s big u need a lot to have live u just sound like 1 of those the goverment is out to get use if u don’t like it then go to an other country and see how u like it


    • Sja_alien

      its not real footage..those guys are actors IMDB it..


    • Angelabain

      Cmon guys how could you possibly thin it was real.  Wouldn’t you expect the “actors” to be a bit more wooden in their performance than the polished acting that I watched on the movie.  Whilst I don’t dispel the possibly of a conspiracy theory for the basis of the movie, I couldnt ever be fooled by accepting this effort as “real footage”!


    • Alex

      Maybe you should try lunatruth.com…i’m sure you’ll find what you need there.


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    • Betty

       you people are so gullible, the movie was scary good, but come on living spider rocks ?
      give me a break.


    • Mosese44

      Lol it’s fake think back Blairwitch project, quarantine many others paranormal activity think real fast if it was “Real” footage way does Apollo 18 have 5 alternate endings lol ppl get caught up in the idea and 4get about facts


    • cpgenius

      i my self have a masters in computer informational technology, i also can hack in to multiple things without hesitation but in order to hack “NASA”  one must first hack
       NOR-RAT. what is NOR-RAT? its the United States hidden security center that houses the 2nd- 3rd  most powerful super computer in the world. Yes sadly we dont have the first. it has a “RE” (repairable encryption) and thousands of firmwalls and firewalls and viral encryptions so i doubt any one hacked into to it so i believe its was an inside leak.  either that or the film makers when to NASA with a little paper that says RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT. that allowed them to view it.


    • Asdgh

      That movie was so stupid. Anyone that believes it was “real footage” is an idiot. Besides they probley shut down thier own site to make it seem like the Government did it.


    • Davsued

       not for you cutie but there are aliens and they are living well.One of which was the second gunman on the grassy knowl.There are even Jim morrison Elvis even Hendricx are aliens ,Sinatra we confirmed.people that read and believe this garbage is why ufos and such unexplained events are never taken seriously.Hoaxing photos stretching the truth as I did only hurts the credability of actual or possible stories,congradulations you have now made a bunch of americans dumbasses.(not responsable for typos as I am being forced to write this behind the local dairy queen)


    • Trillville

      The truth is that there is no truth we all live in a world of lving organisams that have evolved into bieng that produce logic. When you think about it look at how differnt our planet is from the other surfaces our in just our galaxy. We have an atmosphere and water created by god knows what. The human race is some of the wierdest things imaginable, it is possible for there to be other aliens out there but the possiblity is so low just for the fact of how hard it is for something like us humans to be made. I bielieve that Earth and the human race is such a random accurance that for anything to produce logic and do the things that we all enjoy doing in life is close to impossible. Do you really think that something could live and evolve on the moon? Hell what would they eat lol? ROcKS? ThEMsElVEs?? lol idk just dont worrie about it or the whole 911 thing. If our government chooses to try and rule the whole earth and inprisson us all in mind controlling yady yada for a single group of world domination and power we will see it and that will be that. I assure you that if you choose to go with the flow and let the idiots in power try and make this hell whole we live on free for all man you will be alot better for it. There are 2 things you need to do in life, Reproduce and number one be happy. i remember when i did shrooms i went through hell in life i thought i was doomed and i bielived in almost everything that you tube had to offer, even the fat low life that made those movies (cant remember his name) anyways fuck him he should be imprissoned for making movies that retards like myself bielive in and then end up thinking of more and more things based on lies that ended up waisting allmost 6 months of my life. Just keep it real and think for others instead of yourself (i think it says this in the bible somewhere lol) and i hope to god that we will be IGHT.


    • Mwika28

      FYI the actor that plays John in the movie plays a charactor named Henry on the SCIFI show Sanctuary. So the movie is fake.


    • Roland21

      No way. This stuff is definitely real. I know because I was there!


    • Brett_strittmatter

      Hello all you paranoid people.  Yes- we landed on the moon however NASA didn’t show us completely what happened while the astronauts were there.  The Apollo 18 is science fiction- aliens are not out to harm us.  They don’t want to take over our bodies, contaminate us and drive us crazy to the point of suicide or homicide.  If you want the complete truth about e.t.’s from a rational and real perspective and if you would even like to contact e.t.’s- please visit the youtube site, search X Conference, scroll down and watch the “Hidden Truth: Forbidden Knowledge”- by Steven Greer, MD video.  It is about an hour and twenty minutes long.  After watching, go to http://www.cseti.org and read some of the position papers for further explanation.  E.T.’s are not out there to wage war on us, harm us, lay eggs in us or even abduct us.  They visit us and make contact with us so that we can learn from them because they are deeply concerned about the future of humanity.  You must belive this to be true.  I am convinced that any space mission by any country had some encounter or experience with e.t.’s while in space.  We just haven’t heard about the experiences because they have been classified and hidden.  Again, watch the Steven Greer presentation and go out and make contact yourself.  All the best,  “Contact” 


    • Autumnrain

      how do you know its not real, last time ii checked you werrent a astronaut on appollo 18. besides, if it was real you dont think nasa would scream it out on live tv do you? no. theyre tring to oass it off as a rumor or a conspiricy!gosh, people nowadays acting like they know everything!


    • Jordan C.

      Hey man fuck those doubters. that shit looked like some real footage which in the very begining it tells you that some off the footage was replaced due to nasa not wanting the entire truth out. i have 100% faith in their being another life form out there and on the moon a creature like a rock would match perfect on the moon and also they said that 840 pounds of lunar rock came back and now many of them just happen to be stolen or just go missing, OK.


    • Cferra423

      well i guess this the only way i can commit .. i think it’s crazy if ppl dont believe there isnt living things out there .. i mean come on just because we cant live anywhere else doesnt anything .. how can we be the only living thing on a planet …


    • Mellerl

      umm you do relize those were real actors…one of the guys was the main character in lost…jack shepard


    • Mylesodriscoll

      has anyone seen the real thing


    • Mordecaizz

      If that look like real footage my car is made of gold


    • Scotland_w

      i agree with  that i am watching at my house while i am typing this


    • chimichanga choochoo train

      these were actors in a movie…the guy who tried to escape the moon in the russian craft is Warren Christie.  He is in the show Alphas on Syfy channel.  It was not real footage.


    • La Jean Graham

      Hey Mnmcutie: I don’t put anything pass those people who are in charge of Nasa, if there was an Apollo 18 that went to the Moon and contracted some kind of aliens that entered their bodies, I do belive that for national security Nasa wouldn’t allow them to come back to earth. As area 51 was denied for so many years, why don’t people believe that this too could be done. Of course Nasa couldn’t say that three Americans were left in outer space to face whatever, but instead they wanted the public to believe that these three young men died as heros on three different times and futher more, none of th eir bodies were found. I don’t know about anybody else, but doesn’t that sound kind of weird?

                                                                             La Jean Graham


    • JJ

      You are an idiot. 1. Astronauts do not sleep on hammocks. 2. why would they have cameras looking at the lunar module from outside looking in on it. 3. How would they accuire the footage?       And to all the people who believe that the United States of America would bomb and kill its own people in the World Trade Center…..you deserve to be shot.


    • Msbrockman

      I hope you are joking because if you aren’t then you are the most gullible idiot I’ve ever seen post anything


    • Cure us

      I saw the movie just awhile ago I think somebody hacked lunartruth and also all this is probably just a conspiracy


    • Jeremiahjamesbailey

      i dont think its true guys,its just a gimic to get sales,its just like the “Blairwitch” movie the say they find some secret footage an then everybody gets all worked up,but dont get me wrong i believe that we are not alone in this universe, how could we be the only ones,its imposible


    • Timothysuppa

      to b honest i think you are right!!!  you could tell blair witch project was fake and paranormal activity cause they made 3 and now there making a 4th one. APOLLO 18 looked so real and inpossible to try to film it with real actors!! so i  belive this was real footage


    • guest

      You are such an idiot it is not even funny! (unless you were joking) First of all the movie was made in HOLLYWOOD. Second, even if the footage was real why would nasa let it out, then go through all of the trouble to hack the site? …


    • Klaast

      Try lunatruth.com with an R


    • Erikl13

      But really that is all fake and trying to hack into NASA is like hacking into the military’s top secret base


    • your a stupid fucking retarded peiece of shit i hate you


    • Cparks85

      there are some things the government doesnt want us to know


    • Brad_ron_vin

       or they just hired a really good Public Relations firm to cover it up with a story that makes no sense.


    • i would agree with you and for this fool that is closed minded you will have a rude awaking if you think we are the only living species in this whole space of air we live in and don’t. we don’t even use 10% of our brains. you say what you want but why is there so much documents and proof of how our government has covered up killed and lied to everyone in the past and now.??????????


  2. Jake weinstein

    But who’s really to say? If you saw a dragon spawn out of a hamsters ass, but no one believed you, does that make it “fake?” For all we know, the producers of this movie could have been somehow involved in Apollo 18, or just have been one of the few to get a glimpse of the Lunartruth.com website. Maybe it was shut down by NASA, or maybe it was crashed by all the people visiting the site. Maybe it had real footage or maybe it have complete bull shit. But all we can say is that we saw a movie proposed at “real.” And as long as no one has any physical proof, who are we to say it’s not real? Someone really could have “seen the dragon,” and just because no one believes him doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t true. So think about THAT. 


  3. NASA

    No way it was real folks.  The “footage” was blown up in the crash, or didn’t you watch the movie?


    • Ben Redsox

      The footage was feeding to Earth the whole time. Or did DOD just guess that the astronauts were contaminated. Didnt you watch the movie?


      • U R N 1D10T

        1 – if DOD was receiving a video feed the entire time, why did they need to save all the ‘footage’ when escaping the pod?
        2 –  the hand held cameras used on the apollo missions were film there was no ability to transmit   video


        • annonymous

          The cameras used had the full potential to transmit video via live feed. Know the facts before you post dumbass.


          • Donovanreade

            Because Mr. annonymous knows exactly what type of hand held camera they had and with Y2K like technology. What type of camera with that kind of technology using tape recording film.  By the way, who was videoing the infected guy when he was standing over and recording the un-infected guy sleeping? I must be a dumbass as well to be of a rationale mind, lol, or to call someone a dumbass for asking two questions that you really don’t know the answer to, is a bit hostile. SOMEONE needs a hug!


          • Hcardona

            Fool, the ships had camaras all around, remember the infected guy broke one with the hammer


          • Mosese44

            Lmao u shouldn’t b calling any1 a dumbest u should take ur own advice do sum research if the radio waves where blocked for communication that would also stop any and all video from being transmitted as well also those hand held cameras did not have the ability to send the feed they used film they even said so in the movie pay attention and stop believing everything u see on tv use common sense dumbass lmao


          • Mosese44

            Lmao u shouldn’t b calling any1 a dumbest u should take ur own advice do sum research if the radio waves where blocked for communication that would also stop any and all video from being transmitted as well also those hand held cameras did not have the ability to send the feed they used film they even said so in the movie pay attention and stop believing everything u see on tv use common sense dumbass lmao


        • Lomcintosh68@yahoo.com

          Stupid


        • Robert

          the ones connected were the real footage not the handhelds. and the movie is based off of the footage and isnt made from the footage itself!


        • Robert

          the ones connected were the real footage not the handhelds. and the movie is based off of the footage and isnt made from the footage itself!


          • Mosese44

            It’s based off the idea u know how Many tunes we have been to the moon and how sum1 can post film from any of those times and say it was suk1 else? It never shows faces in any moon landing lol


      • Sciencefreak120118

        Dimension stated that they filmed 80 percent of it in British Columbia, the few clips that were real were taken from the apollo 11 footage.  Most of the movie was fake with a little real thrown in, like the launch (not much different from that of Armageddon’s use of launch footage).  The aliens were made in 3D Max and Adobe After Effects.  And the reason the site isn’t working is because it is only a domain.  It has a hacked client running the HTML to make it appear as if the domain is loading, which it is, but will never open because there is nothing to be seen, I know, because I’ve done the same thing before in my programming class.  The film’s hype is generating this controversy, when there shouldn’t be any controversy at all.  Besides, NASA states that they do not allow direct contact from outside sources, such as the Department of Defense.  It was a good movie, but I think everyone is taking this a little too far.


      • Bballerbrown14

        If the movie was real it would not have had producers or even produced if lunartruth.com were shut down then why would nasa release this fotage???


    • Bml_ent